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2010년 3월 위키백과의 보관 토론:뉴스에서/후보자들.

3월 31일

3월 31일 ITN 후보자들

스레브레니차

나는 이것을 다른 사람의 판단에 맡긴다.Physchim62(talk) 01:11, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]
이번 건은 잘 모르겠어.한 편으로는 비난하고 (생각에) 사과하지만 살인은 대량학살이라고 하지 않는다. --PlasmaTwa2 06:41, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답하라]
과거 잔혹행위에 대한 이런 공개적이고 공식적인 고백(더 좋은 말은 생각할 수 없다)은 빅딜이며, 상당히 드물다고 말할 수 있다.--존셀락(토크) 10:44, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]
우리는 사과가 대량학살이라는 용어를 사용하는 것을 부끄러워하기 때문에 비평가들이 화가 났다고 말하면서 그 부분을 흐림에 포함할 수 있다.__메코 (대화) 2010년 3월 31일 12시 59분 (UTC)[응답]
이것은 NPOV에서 약간 빗나가고 있을 수 있지만 나는 'genocide'라는 용어가 여기서 그렇게 중요하지 않은지에 대한 문제를 느낀다(많은 사람들이 그것이 의미 있다고 불평하지만).그들이 이 잔혹행위에 대해 어떤 종류의 비난도 하고 있다는 것은 나에게 매우 중요하다.국가 정부에서는 거의 이런 일을 하지 않는다.--존셀락(대화) 06:05, 2010년 4월 1일 (UTC)[응답]
그렇다면 만약 대량학살이라는 단어가 사용되지 않는다면 어떻게 되었을까?이것은 의미론인데, 위키피디아조차도 더 널리 받아들여질수록 "매사크레"를 사용한다.어쨌든 선언문에는 그 사건이 ICJ 판결에 따라 규정된다고 되어 있다.ICJ는 세르비아는 학살 자체에 대한 책임은 없지만(세르비아나 세르비아로부터의 다른 누구에 의해 자행되거나 조직된 것은 아니다), 세르비아는 이를 막기 위해 노력하지 않았고, 세르비아는 이 선언에 의해 학살 자체를 막기 위해 충분히 하지 않았다고 사과하고--아발라 ()lk) 2010년 4월 1일 12:00 (UTC)[응답하라]
강력한 지원은 여기서 큰 움직임이다.(호주가 그랬던 것처럼) 아르메니아계 미국인들에 대한 선례를 세우는 것과 유사하며, 아메리카 대륙은 심지어 (호주)에 대해서도 선례를 세우는 것과 비슷하다.세르비아 정치의 진로를 흐리게 할 수 있는 움직임IR
지원 - 1면에 실릴 좋은 기사. --중국대화뉴스 13:01, 2010년 4월 2일(UTC)

샤흐람 아미리

이란 핵 야망에 대한 정보로서는 큰 뉴스다. --키치(Talk : Contrib) 12시 30분, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답하라]
이번 건은 잘 모르겠어.그것은 흥미롭지만 실제로 지구촌을 흔드는 것은 아니다.하지만 결정을 내리기 전에 다른 의견을 들을 거야.HJ MitchellPenny, 당신의 생각은? 2010년 3월 31일 12시 35분 (UTC)[응답하라]
만약 그가 이란이 비밀 핵무기 프로그램을 가지고 있다는 정보를 미국에 제공한다면 어떨까.그는 이란과의 전쟁을 정당화시킨 결정적인 증거물이나 최소한 초기에는 이들 시설에 대한 무력공격을 할 수 있다는 것을 증명할 수 있을 것이다. 이러한 명백한 추측적 관점으로 볼 때 이것은 중요한 사건처럼 보인다.__메코 (대화) 13:18, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]
지원 쪽으로 기울어, 조금 더 업데이트되면. --BorgQueen (토크) 16:09, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]
지금 너무 많은 ifs...현재로서는 반대, 어떤 발전이 있으면 지지할 수도 있다. --tone 16:13, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]
톤의 말처럼 너무 편하다. --candlewicke 23:02, 2010년 4월 1일 (UTC)[응답]

3월 30일

3월 30일 ITN 후보자들

아흐메드 빈 자이드 알 나흐얀

'아랍에미리트(UAE) 대통령의 동생' '아부다비투자청(UAE)의 매니징 디렉터'는 모로코, 프랑스, 스페인, 아랍에미리트(UAE), 미국 등 4일 간의 수색 끝에 모로코와 프랑스 다이버들에게 시신이 발견됐다.States. --candlewicke 21:05, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]

가 UAE 대통령의 동생이었고, 그리고 나서 포브스에 따르면 세계 권력자 중 한 명인 사키talk 09:03, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]이기 때문이다.
그가 UAE에서 어떤 공식 직책을 맡고 있었는가, 아니면 단지 그가 UAE 대통령과 부자였다는 이유만으로 ITN에 게시되기를 원했는가? --GPPande 11:22, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]
2008년 포브스 The World's Break Royals 2위, 2009년 3위에 이름을 올렸다.그의 아버지는 UAE의 창립자였고, 2004년 아랍에미리트 내무부 장관을 지냈으며, 2007년 UAE 재무산업부 차관으로 임명되었다. --사키 08:09, 2010년 4월 1일 (UTC)[응답]
반대 세계 금융의 중요한 인물, 만약 범죄 정황에 대한 의혹이 있었다면 나는 그의 죽음을 옹호했을 것이다.이것이 명백히 직접적인 사고인 것으로 보이는 상황에서 나는 그가 이것을 ITN에 자리를 내주는 것을 보증할 만큼 충분히 두드러지다고 생각하지 않는다.__메코 (대화) 13:25, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]
왜 ITN에는 범죄사실이 의심되는 사망자만 고려되고 있는가? --Saki 08:12, 2010년 4월 1일 (UTC)[응답]

LHC 레코드

제네바 CERN거대 하드론 충돌기에서 3.5 TeV 양성자 빔 두 개의 충돌은 인간이 만든 입자 충돌 사상 최고 기록을 세웠다.

  • 왜 이것이 아직 1면에 나오지 않았는지...이것은 매우 중요한 소식이다.[1] --자야니 (대화) 14:23, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
왜냐하면 업데이트의 문장이 정확히 하나 있기 때문이다.ITN에 오르려면 그 이상의 것이 필요하다. --Tone 14:25, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
섹션에 업데이트 추가.관련 타임라인 표 등이미 업데이트됨.SPATtalk 14:54, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
게시. Thuetalk 18:42, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
아직도 만우절 입장인가? --PlasmaTwa2 19:34, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
미래 이벤트에서 이동됨
LHC는 3.5TeV에서 첫 번째 입자 빔과의 충돌을 시도한다.타임즈. 만약 그것이 성공한다면 입자 물리학 역사상 가장 큰 뉴스가 될 수 있을 것이다. 이 시점에 도달하기 위해 수십억 달러와 15년 이상을 소비했기 때문이다.이 모든 것이 실제로 작동하느냐에 달려 있을 것이다.2008년에 발생한 LHC 턴은 확실히 잘 되지 않았다. -- Ashish-g55 03:52, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]

3월 29일

3월 29일 ITN 후보자들

인간 유전자에 대한 특허는 무효로 판정된다.

Rendering of a protein
Portrait from above of a man in his sixties wearing a black judge's robe

미국 지방 법원 판사 로버트 W. 인간 유전자 BRCA1BRCA2에 대한 특허무효라는 달콤한 규칙.

업데이트 시 지원. --BorgQueen (토크) 05:26, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
이를 둘러싸고 많은 논란이 있어 왔기 때문에, 예를 들어 인간의 유전자가 특허 논란을 일으키거나 식물이나 모든 생명체와 관련된 문제와 연관되어 있을 수 있기 때문에, 우리는 이 문제에 대해 별도의 기사를 써야 한다.그렇지 않으면 지원하십시오.__메코 (대화) 07:18, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
진특허는 특허보다 더 좋은 표적물(회사 기사 미리어드 유전학을 무시하겠다.-수잔레슈 (대화) 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC) 14시 19분 (화)[응답]
업데이트됨.그런데 구글뉴스는 유전자특허와 연계하고 있다.우리는 판사의 공개 도메인 사진을 가지고 있다(연방 판사가 유전자 특허를 무효로 판결한 것은 이번이 처음이다).-SusanLesch (대화) 17:23, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답하라]
지지 (이것이 스코투스에게 갈 이지만, 초기 판결은 더 큰 뉴스다.)브래드제임스브라운 (대화) 00:26, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]

프리츠커상

Zollverein School of Management and Design 3116754.jpg

일본인 건축가 세지마 가즈요와 니시자와 류에가 BBC를 이겼다.프리츠커 상은 건축계에서 가장 권위 있는 상으로 여겨진다.그러나 어느 대상 기사가 선정되든 간에 작업이 필요할 것이다.--존셀락(토크) 03:17, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]

지지하다.그 상은 심지어 FL이다.그리고 니시자와에 대한 신선한 무료 이미지를 이용할 수 있다. --Tone 07:22, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
지원 : 이하 도쿄 스카이트리 지명과 통합할 수 있는가? --GPPande 15:04, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
취약한 지원:나도 건축에 관한 이야기를 자주 하는 편이 아니라서 이걸 지명하려고 생각 중이었는데, 건축에 관한 상이 엄청나게 많은 걸 보고 포기했어.그래도 나는 심각한 반대는 없어.Physchim62 (talk) 15:25, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답하라]
지지 이유는 장 누벨이 이겼을 때, 게시하는 것이 훨씬 더 좋은 기사를 낳았기 때문이다. - SusanLesch (대화) 19:02, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
지지하다.그럼 ITNR도? --candlewicke 20:31, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
게시. --Tone 20:32, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
ITNR 지원. Bradjamesbrown (대화) 20:36, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
메인페이지에서 문화소식을 볼 수 있어서 매우 좋다.도쿄의 디올 빌딩과 에센의 졸베린 경영 및 디자인 학교처럼 SANAA의 작업을 예로 들 수 있는 몇 가지 좋은 이미지가 있는데, 두 가지 모두 쥬리의 수상 인용에서 언급되었다.엘렉(대화) 23:16, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
사진 지원. - SusanLesch (대화) 20:57, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]

도쿄 스카이 트리

도쿄 스카이 트리는 도쿄 타워를 넘어 도쿄와 일본에서 가장 높은 건축물로 338m의 높이를 기록하고 있다.[2] --토르소독Talk 15:48, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]

취임 때까지 반대 - TouLouse (대화) 15:59, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
세계에서 가장 키가 크지만 않으면 반대하라.일본이나 도쿄에서 가장 높은 키는 실제로 그렇게 재발견되지 않을 것이다 —서명되지 않은 코멘트76.69.61.152 (대화) 16:46, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
이 탑은 완공되면 지구상에서 두 번째로 높은 건물이 될 것이다.금방이라도 그런 일이 일어날 것 같지 않기 때문에 메인 페이지에 실릴 수 있는 칼리파보다 더 높은 구조가 나올 필요는 없다고 생각한다. --토르소독Talk 17:23, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
칼리파보다 더 높아야 한다고 생각하지 말고, 예를 들어, 가장 높은 탑이나 가장 높은 빌딩 같은 어떤 곳에서 가장 높아야 한다고 생각해.아니면 동아시아에서 가장 높은 탑.어쨌든 게시되기 전에 완성해서 공개해야 하고, 그것도 몇 년 전이다. 76.69.61.152 (대화) 18:19, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
일단 반대하다.625m에서는 부르즈 칼리파보다 짧겠지만, 완성되면 다시 한번 더 많은 논의를 위해 후보로 지명됐으면 한다.브래드제임스브라운 (대화) 2010년 3월 29일 16:57 (UTC)[응답]
완성까지 반대 :) --사키 09:00 (UTC) 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]

리오 틴토 간첩 사건

중국 법원이 세계 최대 광산기업 중 하나인 리오 틴토 그룹의 임원 4명을 뇌물 및 산업스파이 혐의로 유죄로 판결했다[3] --Daviessimo (대화) 07:16, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]

업데이트 시 지원. --BorgQueen (토크) 08:45, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
지원, 새로운 기사처럼 보이고, 잘 참조되고, 더 이상 그루터기가 아니다. - SusanLesch (대화) 19:04, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
지원. --candlewicke 20:31, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]

모스크바 폭발

BBC, 두 건의 폭발로 37명이 사망했어마침 그런 일이 있었으니 괜찮은 기사와 일관된 뉴스 보도를 얻으려면 시간이 걸릴 거라고 확신해.기사가 시작되었다.--존셀락 (대화) 05:42, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]

든든한 지지.모스크바 메트로에서 일어난 첫 연쇄 폭탄 테러. --TarzanASG (대화) 06:57, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
주요 뉴스를 지원하십시오.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 07:02, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답하라]
분명히 강한 지지. --PlasmaTwa2 07:05, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
지원도.모스크바에서 대규모 공격이 발생한 지 오래다 --Daviessimo (토크) 07:18, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
지지하다.2010년 모스크바 메트로 테러 폭탄 테러가 기사다.카고킹토크 08:28, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
Mjroot (대화) 09:02, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
자연스럽게 지원 - TouLouse (대화) 09:08, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
게시됨. (적어도 메트로 역은) 사용할 수 있는 사진이 있을 것 같아. --톤 09:44, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
메인 페이지의 존재를 지지한다.하지만 당신은 메인 페이지의 "테러리스트"를 사용하는 것에 대해 농담하는 겁니까?내 말은, 위키백과 자체에 규칙이 있다면, 어떻게 위키백과는 메인페이지에 오를 수 있을까?WP: 테러리즘은 오래되고 심지어 논쟁의 여지가 있는 규칙이지만, 그것은 위키백과에 확립되어 있다. "모스크바에서의 공격"과 같은 것으로 단어 부호를 바꾸기 위한 더 강력한 지원.."
사실, 나는 지금 두 번의 폭탄테러로 바꿨어.알아봐줘서 고마워.기사는 지금 이 순간에도 남아 있는데, 아마 거기에서도 안 떨어뜨리는 게 좋을 것 같아. --tone 10:57, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
나는 이미 제목에서 " ""를 바꿨다.(분명히 메트로 폭탄 테러라는 직함을 가지고 있었지만 누군가가 그것을 "테러리스트"로 옮겼다.Lihaas추가한 서명되지 않은 논평 준비 (대화 기여) 13:17, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
기사에 유용한 사진이 몇 장 있는데, ITN 박스에 새 사진이 필요해... --Tone 21:27, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]

마컴보 학살

크다.작업할 시간이 있는 사람이 있다면.만약 업데이트가 된다면 누가 감히 이것을 반대하겠는가?= --candlewicke 03:23, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]

지지하다.끔찍한 대학살.ITN 지점 지우기.__메코 (대화) 09:36, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
지원, 또한, 블러브(blurb)를 제안하십시오. --tone 09:44, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
지지하다.비록 거의 그렇지는 않지만, 기사는 충분해 보인다.그 주제는 분명히 충분히 주목할 만하다.--Johnselmak (대화) 17:00, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
나는 그것을 조금 확장했다.만약 우리가 업데이트를 한다면, 우리는 오바마 아이템이 현재 우리가 가지고 있는 유일한 사진이기 때문에 (또는 다른 아이템의 사진을 찾아야 한다는 것을 명심해야 한다) - 듀멜로우 (토크) 19:02, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
위 게시물에 대한 답변을 위키백과 토크로 옮겨 본 지명과 특별히 관련이 없는 블러브 이미지 업데이트를 논의하였다.뉴스#Blurb 사진 업데이트.__메코 (대화) 08:06, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
사람들은 어떻게 생각하는가: "휴먼 라이츠 워치콩고 민주 공화국에서 주 저항군에 의해 적어도 321명의 사람들이 살해된 것을 발견했다고 말한다."문구에 대해서는 잘 모르겠는데, 아마 누군가가 개선할 수 있을 거야 - 두멜로우 (대화) 19:22, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
글쎄, 기사 제목이 아직도 마음에 들지 않는 걸 보면, 나는 ITN blurb에 있는 그것의 배관이 마음에 드는데, 나는 괜찮다고 생각한다.브래드제임스브라운 (토크) 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC) 19:26 [응답]
이것은 지금 개선되었다. --candlewicke 20:37, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
게시 - 두멜로우(토크) 22:07, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]

아테네 중심부의 치명적인 폭탄 테러

만에 처음으로 그리스에서 치명적인 폭격이 있었다.사망자 수는 적지만 ITN은 이전에 적은 수의 사망자를 낸 적이 있다.BBC는 이 장소가 "공무원 양성을 위한 기관이었다"고 전했다.경찰은 아무런 경고도 없었다고 말했다.기사에 대한 지원이 있는가?국제 보도:알 자지라, 신화, 가디언, RTE, 시드니 모닝헤럴드, 프레스TV, CNN, 프랑스24, 인민일보, 글로브, 메일. --candlewicke 01:46, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]

던노. 몇 년 만에 첫 번째 치명적 폭탄일지도 모르지만, 내 카운트로부터 열흘쯤 만에 세 번째 폭격이기 때문에 어느 순간 누군가 크게 다치거나 죽을 것 같았다.지금은 중립이다.물리침62 (대화) 02:25, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
나는 Physchim62 사상을 지지한다.비록 이것이 그리스가 최근에 소규모의 폭탄테러를 본 첫 번째 사람이었지만.이 글은 올리지 말자. --GPPande 10:39, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
모스크바에 비추어 볼 때, 나도 이것을 게시하지 않는 것에 동의해야 한다.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 2010년 3월 29일 19:41 (UTC)[응답하라]
참고: 모스크바 이전에 지명됨. --candlewicke 20:35, 2010년 3월 30일(UTC)[답글]
알아, 그리고 그 전까지는 아마 이걸 지지했을 거야.브래드 제임즈브라운 (토크) 20:29, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[답글]
브래드 말에 동의하지만 속삭이는 거지?HJ Mitchell Penny, 네 생각은 어때? 20:40, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답하라]


3월 28일

3월 28일 ITN 후보자들

13개의 표준 시간대에 위치한 러시아는 시간대의 수를 11개에서 9개로 줄였다.

나는 이 시간 혁명이 흥미롭고 중요하다고 생각한다. --TarzanASG (토크) 12:50, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]

그것은 루시아스 인구의 약 3%에 달하는 인구 부족 지역에만 영향을 미치는 것으로 보인다.이것이 정말 러시아 밖에서 중요한가?프라임헌터(토크) 13:36, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]
반대. 흥미롭지만 이번 주의 주요 뉴스는 아니다.--존셀락 (토크) 18:18, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]
반대 흥미롭기는 하지만, 러시아 연방 인구의 그 정도에는 영향을 미치지 않는 것 같다.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 00:07, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]

중국 완성차업체 볼보 인수

중국 자동차 제조업체인 겔리포드사와 스웨덴에 본사를 둔 볼보차를 18억달러에 구입하기로 합의했다.BBC.--Johnselak (대화) 18:05, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답하라]

주요 국제 거래, 매우 인지도가 높은 자동차 회사들, 그리고 나는 중국 자동차 회사로는 처음이라고 믿는다.--Johnselmak (대화) 18:05, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]
내가 네 코멘트를 수정했어. 신경 쓰지 않았으면 좋겠어.거래액은 18억 달러지 백만 달러는 아니다.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 00:08, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
아, 고마워:)--존셀락 (대화) 05:34, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
아니, 나도 동의해.그러나 볼보는 매우 인지도가 높은 글로벌 브랜드다.--존셀락(토크) 03:10, 2010년 3월 30일(UTC)[응답]
지지하다.이것은 ITN이 발표해야 할 역사적인 판매다.__메코 (대화) 08:10, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
게시물. 포드 CEO의 이미지를 사용했는데, 현재로서는 우리의 이미지 문제를 해결해야 할 것이다 - 두멜로우(토크) 10:46, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]

트랙 사이클 세계 챔피언

2010년 UCI 트랙 사이클 세계선수권대회 옐로몬키 확대(남성화이트 펜스 슈퍼모델 사진 여론조사) 00:48, 2010년 3월 29일(UTC)[응답]


3월 27일

  • 어스 아워
    • 전 세계 약 4,000개의 도시들이 지구의 시간을 기념하기 위해 건축 조명을 어둡게 했다.
    • 고믈리 아일랜드 녹색당 당수는 지구촌과 일치하는 전당대회 동안 TV 연설을 한 것으로 비난을 받고 있다.

3월 27일 ITN 후보자들

버틀러 인 파이널 포

나는 스티븐스 기사에 대한 전면적인 재검토를 하고 있다; 나는 앞으로 몇 시간 동안 모든 것을 언급할 것이고, 그리고 나서 이번 시즌에 대해 구체적으로 언급하지 않은 정보를 확대할 것이다.준비가 되면, 원한다면 DYK에 기사를 실을 수 있지만, ITN에 더 잘 맞을 것 같아.버틀러의 러닝은 일주일 내내 미국에서 가장 큰 스포츠 스토리가 될 것이기 때문에 이것은 즉시 혹은 4월 3일(다음 경기 날짜)에 진행될 수 있을 것이다.[4][5][6][7] --ThaddeusB (대화) 00:08, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]

이런 경우라면 DYK가 더 좋다. --Tone 11:06, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답]
오프 토픽(Off-topic)이지만, 명명자의 정보를 위해 이 글은 DYK 자격이 되려면 500자의 산문이 더 필요하다.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 11시 9분, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답하라]

어스 아워 2010

  • 2010년 3월 27일 오후 8시 30분부터 현지시간 9시 30분까지 Earth Hour 2010이 열린다.그날의 어떤 아이템이 가장 좋을지, 아니면 예비 뉴스 캐스트나, 전 세계적으로 얼마나 많은 도시가 참여했는지와 그 영향을 보도하는 것이 좋을지 나는 잘 모르겠다.현재 2010년에 대해서는 3월 초 현재 뉴스가 발생하지 않았기 때문에 많이 쓰이지 않았다.스리메쉬톡 23:32, 2010년 3월 2일 (UTC)[응답]
그것은 이미 On This Day에 나와 있다.그것을 두 번 추가하는 것은 과잉 살상이다(ITN에 크리스마스를 기념하는 사람들을 추가하지 않을 것이다). ~DCTalk To Me 16:47, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
Concur. 이날은 이에 대한 충분한 인식이다. Bradjamesbrown (토크) 00:04, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]
지원 이제 UTC 3월 28일이므로 OTD 페이지는 더 이상 나타나지 않는다.하지만 어스 아워는 현지 시간인 만큼 미국 서해안은 아직 이를 관측하지 않고 있다.그러나 나는 얼마나 많은 사람들이 그것을 관찰했는지에 대한 몇몇 예비 통계를 원한다.HereToHelp(talk to me) 02:35, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]
DC당 반대. --PlasmaTwa2 03:25, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]
위와 같이 반대한다. --Johnselak (talk) 18:52, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)항.[답답하다]

앨버트 곤잘레스

테크놀로지 이야기?곤잘레스는 "미국 역사상 가장 크고 비용이 많이 드는 컴퓨터 해킹 사례"를 저질렀다고 1억3000만개가 넘는 신용카드 번호를 입수해 재판한 판사가 밝혔다.그 기사는 업데이트 작업이 아직 필요하지만 전체적으로 합리적인 것 같다.Physchim62 (talk) 00:18, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]

업데이트 시 지원. --BorgQueen (토크) 10:18, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
ditto --Johnselak (talk) 18:59, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]

"킬러 고드름이 러시아인을 공포에 떨게 한다"

"러시아의 30년 만에 가장 추운 겨울"제목이 눈에 띄었다.사용 가능한가? --candlewicke 02:46, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]

만우절 바보들을 위해서, 물론이지.머더드talk 지니어스 02:49, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
헤드라인이 아니라 그 뒤의 이야기를 말하는 거야.사망자 집계도 하지 않은 채 부상이 너무 많은 겁니다. --candlewicke 03:08, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
기사 있어?--존셀락 (대화) 07:01, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
2010년 러시아 겨울인가 아니면 이 기사들에 대해 정해진 이름 형식이 무엇인가?Ed (토크 장엄한 타이탄) 05:53, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
2009~2010년 유럽의 겨울?작년 러시아에는 이미 눈이 조금 내렸다 - 두멜로우(토크) 10시 52분, 2010년 3월 30일 (UTC)[응답하라]

바실리 스미슬로프

스미슬로프는 체스 역사상 충분히 저명한 인물이라 ITN 템플릿에서 언급하기에 그의 죽음이 좋다고 생각한다.--기릴 시메오노프스키 (토크) 16:42, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]

지원 - TouLouse (대화) 20:32, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
원칙적으로 지지하다.그 기사는 세 가지 참고문헌을 모두 가지고 있다.그의 죽음에 대해서도 한두 단락이 필요하겠지만(가능한 경우 어디에서, 어떻게, 그리고 약간의 반응을 보이는가) 개선되면 이것은 분명히 ITN 가치가 있다고 생각한다.HJ MitchellPenny, 네 생각은 어때? 20:37, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답하라]
나의 즉각적인 반응은 비록 그 기사가 개선되고 확실히 유익한 것 같지만, 이것이 실제로 중요한 사건이 아니라는 것을 근거로 반대한다.하지만 내 느낌은 '최근의 죽음'에 맡기는 게 낫다는 것이다.--존셀락 (대화) 18:56, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]
지지하다."그들의 전문 분야에서 매우 중요한 인물로서, 그렇게 인식되었다." --candlewicke 19:53, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]


3월 26일

3월 26일 ITN 후보자들

이라크 선거 결과 발표

2010년 이라크 의회 선거 결과가 발표되었고, 아야드 알라위가 대부분의 의석을 차지했다.출처: voa nyt.세나리움 (대화) 23:03, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]

파일:Allawi3.jpg 사용 가능.세나리움(대화) 23:06, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]
중요한 결과물 지원. -- 지우개헤드1 <토크> 23:06, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]
ITNR에 의한 지원. blurb?2010년talk 3월 26일 모데드 지니어스 23:44 (UTC)[응답]
몰라, 내 첫 번째 포스트는 아마도?2010년 이라크 국회의원 선거 결과가 발표돼 아야드 알라위(사진)가 최다 의석을 차지했다.세나륨 (대화) 01:23, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
그것은 특별히 백과사전적인 어조가 아니다.게다가 알라위 자신은 많은 의석을 얻지 못했다. 그의 당은 그렇게 했다.다음을 참조하십시오.
아야드 알라위(사진)가 이끄는 알-이라키야당2010년 이라크 총선에서 가장 많은 의석을 차지했다.
머더드talk 지니어스 02:13, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
그래, 이거 좋다.세나륨 (대화) 03:04, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
지원. --bender235 (대화) 02:38, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
선거 페이지의 결과 표는 갱신할 필요가 있다.개표가 95.1%에 불과하다.내가 직접 했겠지만 자료를 찾을 수 없었다 - 두멜로우 (대화) 10:59, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답하라]
우습게도 IHEC 웹사이트 [8]의 가장 최근 항목은 목요일부터이며, 최종 결과는 금요일 '재스케줄링 없음'으로 발표될 것이라고 한다.지금은 토요일 오후 중반(이라크 시간)으로 최종 결과는 발표되지 않았다.2010년 3월 27일 Modest Genius 13talk:43 (UTC)
오늘 최종 결과가 나왔다[9].나는 지금 그것들을 추가할 시간이 없다.2010년 3월 28일(UTC) 13장 39절 [응답]

지금 추가하기 늦은건가? 세나리움 (토크) 00:37, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]

  • 이 게시물이 게시되었고, 현재 기록 보관소에 묻혔는가? --GPPande 11:24, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]
보아하니 최종 업데이트가 누락되어 아직 게시되지 않은 것 같아.그러나 현재 가장 오래된 ITN 아이템은 3월 24일부터라고 게시해도 늦지 않다. --Tone 11:39, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]
음, 이라크_의회_선거,_2010#Final_결과가 있는데 꽤 결정적인 것 같거나 아니면 우리가 다른 것을 기다리고 있는 것 같나?HJ MitchellPenny, 당신의 생각은? 2010년 3월 31일 11시 51분 (UTC)[응답하라]
바로 그거야뭘 기다리는 거야?? --GPPande 15:53, 2010년 3월 31일 (UTC)[응답]

대한민국 해군 함정 침몰 사건

이건 점점 커지고 있어.그 선박은 어뢰에 맞아 침몰/침몰된 것으로 추정되고 있다.S 한국 해군은 이제 의심스러운 N 한국 함정을 향해 반격을 가했다.[10], [11] 아직 기사 없음. -- Flyguy649 16:30, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]

  • 이번 공격에 관한 지금까지의 추측에 지나지 않는다. 우리는 확인을 기다려야 한다.내가 보기엔 두 나라의 당국 모두 이것에 대해 어떠한 성명도 아직 발표하지 않았다.참말 ¤ 16:41, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]
2010년 백령도 사건에 대한 기사와 천안함 사건 관련 선박에 대한 기사가 나오고 있다(PCC-772) - 두멜로(대화) 17:25, 2010년 3월 26일(UTC)[응답]
요즘 내가 말을 많이 하는 것 같아 '예외'와 '잠재력'으로는 부족하다.믿을만한 정보원이 실제로 무슨 일이 일어났는지 확인한다면, 우리는 이야기가 있다.지금 우리는 추측만 하고 있다.두고 보자.2010년 3월 26일 Modest Geniustalk 18:32[응답]
현재 46명의 선원들이 확실히 실종되었다.나는 그것만으로도 충분히 주목할 만하다고 말하고 싶다.무슨 일이 일어났는지 아주 많이 알려지지 않았지만, 나는 그것이 꽤 큰 사건이라고 이제 판단할 수 있다고 말하고 싶다.국경 분쟁(사실 이것이 하나였다면)은 한국에서 흔하지만 몇 년 만에 가장 중요한 사건이 될 수 있다.그렇다, '할 수 있다' 하지만 나는 우리가 이미 사실로 알고 있는 것이 IMHO 충분히 주목할 만하다는 논리로 돌아간다.기사에 흠잡을 데 없는 경우 지원하라.--존셀락(토크) 06:55, 2010년 3월 27일(UTC)[응답]
그들은 이제 북한이 관여하지 않았다고 말하고 있고, 또 다른 남한 선박의 "보복"은 새떼를 반대하는 것이었을지도 모른다.46 MIA/KIA 이후의 약한 지지도는 여전히 큰 것이다.참말talk 13:20, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
고의로 침몰하지 않았더라도, 전함은 그렇게 자주 침몰하지 않는다--DAI (Δ) 17:05, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
게시, 자세한 내용 나오면 블럽 업데이트 가능 - 두멜로우(토크) 11:46, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]

미국-러시아 핵 무기 조약

BBC 뉴스가 거래를 끝냈으니 이제 공식화된 것 같다.내가 찾을 수 있는 기사는 없어.Physchim62 (talk) 16:34, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답하라]

START I에 짧은 업데이트가 있다.Physchim62 (대화) 2010년 3월 26일 16:43 (UTC)[응답]
흠, 원칙적으로는 지지하지만, 혹시라도 우리가 비준을 기다려야 할까?한편, 모든 언론 보도는 발표를 마칠 것이기 때문에(즉, 지금), 즉석 포스팅이 더 나을지도 모른다.어디선가 자기 물건이 필요해2010년 3월 26일 Modest Geniustalk 18:34 (UTC)[응답]
지지하지만 오바마와 메드베데프위키레이더41(대화) 22:41, 2010년 3월 26일(UTC)에 의해 4월 8일 조약이 체결될 때까지 기다리는 것이 좋겠다[답답답하다]
전략공세무기의 추가 감축제한에 대한 대책에 대한 단서가 있는 것 같다 - Dumelow (대화) 22:44, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]
지원은 하되 양쪽 정부가 비준할 때까지 기다리기를 원할 수도 있다.Nirvana888 (대화) 00:29, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]

러시아는 마인 캄프를 불법으로 규정한다.

이것은 러시아의 표현의 자유에 대한 곧 다가올 모욕의 음흉한 전조처럼 보일 것이다. 그리고 비록 음모론적인 생각이 덜 드는 것을 선택하더라도, 이것은 중요한 움직임이다.__meco (대화) 17:05, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]

비록 이것이 정책의 변화로 보이지는 않지만, 이것은 여전히 세계 역사에서 가장 중요한 책 중 하나이다.__메코 (대화) 2010년 3월 26일 17시 12분 (UTC)[응답]
그리고 많은 나라에서 출판이 금지되어 있다.실제로 판매에 제한이 없는 나라는 극히 일부에 불과하다(아직 저작권이 있는 것으로 볼 때).Physchim62(talk) 17:19, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답하라]
반대 내가 검열을 혐오하는 만큼, 이 책이 불법화되는 것은 충분히 드문 일이 아니다.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC) 17:54 (대화)[응답
러시아가 책을 금지하는 것은 뉴스가 아니며, 특히 그 책을 언제 다른 수많은 수단을 통해서도 쉽게 구할 수 있을 것인가 하는 점이다.반대하다.러시아도 영화 보랏의 개봉을 막았고, 보도된 바 없다고 본다.--존셀락 (토크) 06:49, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]


3월 25일

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CITES 미팅

  • 카타르 도하에서 열리는 CITES 회의가 막을 내릴 예정이다.이번 협약은 일본의 수요가 높은 참다랑어는 물론 다른 나라의 초밥과 회 소비자들에게도 국제무역을 금지할 수 있다는 데 의의가 있다.[12][13] --BorgQueen (대화) 15:17, 2010년 2월 5일 (UTC)[응답]
그들은 그러지 않았다.실망스럽지만 ITN의 가치가 있는 것은 아니다.2010년 3월 27일 Modest Genius 18:48 (UTC)[응답]


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치앙마이 이니셔티브


제임스 블랙 경의 죽음

(BBC). 조금 늦었지만(22일 사망) 그는 공로훈장(영국의 최고 영예, 한때 25명으로 제한)의 일원이자 노벨상 수상자로 "20세기 스코틀랜드의 위대한 과학자 중 한 명으로 환영받았으니 지명할 가치가 있다고 생각한다.HJ Mitchell Penny, 당신의 생각은? 2010년 3월 25일 05:54, (UTC)[응답하라]

지원 - 그는 20세기 의학에서 가장 중요한 발전 중 하나인 베타 차단제를 발명했는데, 이것은 의심할 여지 없이 많은 생명을 구했다 --Daviessimo (토크) 06:46, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
원칙적으로 지원하지만 기사 업데이트는 더 필요하다. --Tone 08:49, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
맞아. 나 지금 확장 공사 중이야.나는 그의 죽음에 대한 정보를 좀 더 추가했고 나는 전기와 직업에 관한 더 많은 것들을 연구하고 있다.HJ MitchellPenny, 네 생각은 어때? 09:06, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답하라]
내가 조금 더 해봤는데, 아마 리드도 필요할 거야.지금은 더 이상 할 시간이 없어 미안 - 두멜로우(대화) 11시 34분, 2010년 3월 25일(UTC)[응답]
지지하다.지금은 도와드릴 시간이 없지만 이건 좋은 겁니다. --candlewicke 21:50, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
지원 중요 인물.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 00:16, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]
게시물. 그곳에서 프로프라놀놀과 시메티딘을 작업하는 것에 대해 생각했지만, 다른 사람이 더 나은 방법을 제안할 수 없을지도 모른다 - 두멜로우 (토크) 09:11, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]

섬은 바다 밑으로 사라진다.

분쟁 중인 남탈파티 섬이 해수면 상승으로 사라진 것은 이례적인 일로 보인다[15].위키리더41 (대화) 02:23, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]

지원 - TouLouse (대화) 07:15, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
지지하다.이것은 갈등 해결에 대한 완전히 이상한 각도다.지구온난화 논쟁에서도 흥미롭다.__메코 (대화) 08:21, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
좋은 문구를 찾을 수 있다면 그것은 4월 1일의 또 다른 훌륭한 후보군. --tone 08:49, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
논평 - 이 기사는 이 섬이 1970년대에야 생겨났고, 최대 크기인 10000평방미터(약 100m x 100m)에 불과했으며, 해발 2m 이상의 고도를 가진 적이 없다고 말한다.그러므로 나는 우리가 메코의 '분쟁 해결' 제안의 선에서 만우절의 길을 따르는 것이 낫다는 것에 동의한다.
나는 이것을 전적으로 지지한다.첫째, 이 섬은 인도-방글라데시 관계의 주요 가시였다.둘째, 지구 온난화가 영토 분쟁을 해결할 수 있다고 누가 생각했을까?
여기에 블럽이 어떻게 생겼어야 하는지에 대한 광범위하고 일반적인 아이디어가 있다(모든 관련 정보를 포함하며, 일부는 필요하지 않을 수 있음).
The School of Oceanographic Studies at India's Jadavpur University concludes that the South Talpatti/New Moore Island, disputed between India and Bangladesh, has disappeared due to rising sea water level.--노즈타운 (대화) 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC) 15:11, 25[응답]
이야기가 4월 1일에 더 많은 영향을 미칠 것 같아.Physchim62(talk) 15:32, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
물론이지. 4월 1일은 일주일 정도 거리인데 그때까지 이 물건이 잊혀지지 않았으면 좋겠어. --노타운 (대화) 15:41, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
  • 에 따라 지원하십시오.마법사맨 15:45, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
  • 지원: 섬은 인도와 방글라데시 사이의 대륙붕을 구분하는 데 사용될 예정이었기 때문에 분쟁 지점이었다.이 대륙붕에는 석유와 천연가스 자원이 포함된 것으로 추정되며, 분쟁으로 모든 탐사활동이 중단되었다.이제 이 섬이 사라지면 대륙붕의 경계는 두 나라 사이에서 새로운 국면을 맞게 될 것이다.또한, 얼마나 자주 우리는 섬이 실종되는 것을 듣는가?아무리 작아도.빅뉴스+지구온난화 우려. --GPPande 15:54, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
  • YellowMonkey 지원 (Southern Stars and White Ferns 슈퍼모델 사진 여론조사) 00:31, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]
여기에는 해당 항목에 대해 상당히 많은 지지를 받고 있는 것 같지만, 아무런 조치도 취해지지 않고 있다.내가 놓친 게 있나? --Nosown (대화) 14:46, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답하라]
우리는 4월 1일에 기다리고 있을 겁니다.이제 우리는 단지 좋은 흐림이 필요하다. --Tone 16:05, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]
4월 1일 외 지원.나는 이것이 농담으로 받아들여져야 한다고 생각하지 않는다.'방글라데시인도 사이에 분쟁을 빚고 있는 무인도인 남탈파티섬인도 자다브푸르대 해양과학대학에서 해수면 상승으로 바다 밑이 사라진 것으로 나타났다.' 평시 편입, 즉 '사이클로 1970년부터 시작된 섬 분쟁은 지구 온난화로 해결된다'는 것은 어떨까.만우절 포함을 위해?~AH1(TCU) 00:02, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
이렇게 말하고 싶지만
방글라데시인도 사이에 분쟁을 빚고 있는 무인도 뉴 무어/사우스 탈파티 섬은 인도 자다브푸르 대학교 해양학 연구소에 의해 해수면 상승으로 인해 바다 밑으로 사라진 것으로 밝혀졌다.
이 섬은 분쟁을 일으켰고 인도와 방글라데시 양쪽이 중립을 위해 붙인 이름이 포함되어야 한다. --노사운 (대화) 21:24, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답하라]
"4월 1일에 기다리고 있는 것 같소."?그리고 당신의 신념은 무엇에 근거하고 있는가?여기서의 지원의 대부분은 4월 1일이 아닌 정상적인 ITN을 위한 것이다.어쨌든 이 4월 1일 일은 대체 어떻게 된 거야?심지어 약간 웃기거나 특이한 제안 항목이 "4월 1일"로 전락하는 이유는 무엇인가?미안하지만 나는 지구온난화로 인한 분쟁섬 침몰이 어떻게 웃기는지 이해할 수 없다.이것은 심각한 문제인데 해양학 연구소는 이 지역의 다른 섬들, 특히 몰디브 섬들도 같은 미래에 직면할 수 있다고 말했다.이곳의 태도는 상당히 거슬린다. --노타운 (대화) 21:05, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
나는 이것을 4월 1일 밖에서 지지한다. 그래서 나는 내 자신을 분명히 한다.그럼, 마지막 퍼블은 뭘까? --Tone 21:34, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답하라]
음, 나는 이것을 제안한다 (주: 나는 ITN 아이템에 대한 경험이 별로 없다) -
방글라데시인도 사이에 분쟁을 빚고 있는 무인도 뉴 무어/사우스 탈파티(South Talpatti)는 인도 자다브푸르 대학교 해양학 연구소에서 해수면 상승으로 벵골만 아래로 사라진 것으로 밝혀졌다.
--노즈타운 (대화) 23:44, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]
좋은 생각이야.이것은 충분히 심각한 문제다.4월 1일을 기다려서는 안 된다.위키리더41 (대화) 00:07, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]
지금 지원 게시.난 어차피 만우절 팬은 아니지만, 이건 그렇게 유머러스한 것도 아닌 것 같아.브래드제임스브라운 (대화) 00:10, 2010년 3월 28일 (UTC)[응답]
나는 이 ITN 후보 절차 전체에 결함이 있다는 것을 깨달았다.이 항목이 지명된 지 4일이 지났지만, 이에 대한 폭넓은 공감대가 형성되어 여전히 아무런 조치도 취하지 않고 있다. --노사운 (대화) 10:36, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]
궁금한 게 있는데, 벌써 게시된 줄 알았는데...분명히 그렇지 않았다.지금 게시. --Tone 10:39, 2010년 3월 29일 (UTC)[응답]

위키미디어 문제

내 토크 페이지를 봐.일부 서버가 일시적으로 녹아서 모든 이미지가 표시되지 않는 것 같아.이 문제가 얼마나 널리 퍼졌는지 확실하지 않고 나는 어떤 표적 페이지도 알지 못한다.마르쿠스 아우렐리우스 안토니누스 (토크) 20:08, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답하라]

좋아. 이게 ITN에 어떻게 맞는지 잘 모르겠네. 이 이야기에 더 적합한 것 같아.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화)20:30, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]

아벨상

힌두교 미국인 수학자테이트는 "현대 수학에 대한 그의 두드러진 각인"으로 아벨 상을 받는다 [16][17][18]

노벨상 발표는 보통 ITN에서 하는 것 같은데, 이건 같은 카테고리에 있어야 해.

SPAT 16:57, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]

지원, 기사에는 6단어 이상의 업데이트가 필요함.이것을 ITNR 아이템으로 만들 가치가 있는가?2010년 3월 24일 Modest Geniustalk 21:23 (UTC)[응답]
필즈 메달과 함께 ITNR이 될 수 있을 것 같아.업데이트가 좀 더 필요한 경우 게시할 수 있다(실제로 그가 상을 받았다고 해서 중요한 업데이트로 간주되지는 않는다). --Tone 21:41, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
코멘트 그의 페이지에 그 수상에 대한 단락을 추가했다.SPATtalk 01:56, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
지원 (그리고 그도 울프상을 받았다.-SusanLesch (대화) 03:07, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
게시. --Tone 08:49, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
ITNR 지원 --candlewicke 21:51, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]

노르웨이 열차 탈선

오슬로의 한 항구에서 화물열차가 추락해 최소 3명이 숨지고 다른 사람들이 크게 다쳤다.BBC CNN - JuneGloom07 토크? 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC) 17:35[응답]

국제적인 관점에서 A 사소한 사건에 반대하라.__메코 (대화) 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC) 18:54[응답]
위에 따른 반대 - TouLouse (대화) 19:23, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
메코에 반대하라; 열차 충돌로 3명이 사망한 것은 사실 열차 충돌의 연속에서 그렇게 많은 수는 아니다.브래드제임스브라운 (대화)20:33, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]

위키리크스의 주요 개발

[19] --Athinker (대화) 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC) 19:30 [응답]

반대 우리는 믿을 만한 소식통에 의해 보도되지 않은 것에 근거할 수 없으며, 당신이 링크하는 그 페이지는 이것이 주류 뉴스에서는 보도될 것 같지 않다고 말한다.__메코 (대화) 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC) 19:47[응답]
위키리크스 문제는 오늘날 더 많은 출처를 얻고 있다 - [20], [21], [22].

탬파베이의 미스터리 몽키

지난 1년 동안 세인트루이스에서는 붉은털원숭이출몰해 왔다. 플로리다 페테르부르크에서 당국의 체포를 피했다.그 원숭이는 길을 건너기 전에 교통 상황을 확인하는 두 가지 방법을 모두 찾는다.출처 AP통신 그룬들2600 (대화)20:28, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]

4월 1일 퍼펙트 뉴스! --Tone 20:30, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
정말 좋은 지적이야!그룬들2600 (대화) 21:05, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
4월 1일 지지, 그렇지 않으면 반대하라.위키백과로 가져가십시오.만우절 메인 페이지/인더뉴스!2010년 3월 24일 Modest Geniustalk 21:29 (UTC)[응답]
응, 그렇게 할게.링크해줘서 고마워.그룬들2600 (대화) 21:34, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]

데니소바 호민

이게 무슨 일인지 나도 몰랐다.시간이야, BBC.브래드제임스브라운 (토크) 02:07, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답하라]
여기서 문제가 된 기사는 데니소바 호민(Denisova hominin)이며, 가능한 헤드라인은 "과학자들은 시베리아 동굴에서 발굴된 손가락 뼈의 DNA 분석을 통해 이전에 알려지지 않았던 고대인의 유형을 식별한다." 2010년talk 3월 25일(UTC) 02:12, 25(응답)이다.
지지하다.(그리고 그것은 워싱턴 포스트의 1면에 실렸다.)-수잔레슈 (대화) 02:31, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답하라]
새로운 종들은 항상 훌륭한 ITN 물질이다. 우리가 호민관에 대해 이야기한다면 더욱 그렇다.지지하다.(문구에 동의하면 제안된 문구는 괜찮아 보인다.) --톤 09:13, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답하라]
아이템과 블럽을 모두 지원하십시오.하지만, 긴 링크는 보기 흉해서 나는 "이전에는 알려지지 않았던" 것을 괄호 밖으로 옮기곤 했다.HJ MitchellPenny, 네 생각은 어때? 09:19, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답하라]
자, 게시물. --tone 09:20, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]


3월 23일

3월 23일 ITN 후보자들

하인리히 보에르

타임즈 - "60년 넘게 네덜란드 민간인 3명을 살해한 혐의로 유죄 판결을 피하기 위해 가능한 모든 법적 수단을 동원한 전 SS 킬러 하인리히 보어에게는 드디어 시간이 다 되었다."

이것이 문제를 해결하는 데 도움이 될까?특히 60년이 지난 후에 매우 흥미로웠다.그는 심지어 기자들에게 어떻게 했는지 농담을 하기도 했다... --candlewicke 21:32, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
반대한다. 일반적인 살인은 제2차 세계대전 중에 일어났다고 해서 더 눈에 띄는 것이 아니다. 그와는 정반대인 것이다.물리침62(대화) 23:14, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
반대 이 친구는 그가 한 일 때문에 눈에 띄지 않지만, 오랜 시간 동안 그는 정의에 맞서야 했다.나는 이런 상황에서 BLP를 내세우는 것이 불편하다.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 00:26, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
비고지 전범에 반대하라.불행히도, 대부분의 나라에서는 범죄인 인도 등을 저지하려는 소수의 사람들이 이 중 1000명이 있으며, 옐로몬키 (남방 스타와 화이트 펜스의 슈퍼모델 사진 투표) 04:08, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]

영국은 위조여권에 대해 이스라엘 외교관을 추방했다.

BBC. 전에 이 이야기와 관련된 내용을 보도한 적이 있는 것 같은데, 이것은 상당히 중대한 진전이다.--존셀락 (토크) 16:20, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]

지지 나는 이 이야기를 별로 따르지 않았다는 것을 인정하겠지만, 특히 영국이 이스라엘의 중요한 동맹국임을 고려하면 이것은 꽤 큰 발전으로 보인다. --PlasmaTwa2 19:20, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
지원 영국 외무 영연방 사무국발표한 새로운 여행 조언은 매우 전례 없는 것이다: "우리는 반드시 필요할 때 이스라엘 관리들을 포함한 제3자에게만 여권을 넘겨줄 것을 권고한다."내 생각에는 '이스라엘을 믿지 말라'는 말로 표현될 수 있는 공식적인 여행 조언이 외교관의 추방보다 훨씬 더 중요하다.Physchim62(토크) 2010년 3월 23일 19:57 (UTC)[응답하라]
이것은 흥미롭지만, 가장 최근의 이스라엘과 관련된 그리고 바로 어제 지명된 국가들간의 다른 최근의 분쟁은 어떨까?이들 각각이 지명되었을 때 반대 의견이 제기되었다.이는 미국도 이스라엘에 대해 별로 달갑지 않다는 점을 고려하면, 동맹국으로서의 역할도 의문이다. --candlewicke 20:51, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
나에게 있어 차이점을 만드는 것은 여행 조언이다: "정말로 그럴 필요가 없는 한 영국 여권을 가지고 이스라엘 정부를 신뢰하지 말라."(기습)는 평범한 대사 등을 소환하는 것보다도, 가장, 훨씬 더 특이한 말을 하는 것은 특이한 논평이다.Physchim62(talk) 20:56, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)co[응답]
영국 정부는 법원이 내린 체포 영장에 대해 외무부 장관에게 사과하기 위해 허리를 굽혔다.그들이 그렇게 대충 돌아섰다는 것은 의미심장하다.그래서 지원. -- 지우개헤드1 <토크> 21:00, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
반대해. 지난달에 이런 외교 사건이 네 번째나 다섯 번째니까 이런 일도 드물지 않아.진행중인 이야기는 흥미롭지만, 나는 이것이 그것을 다시 게시하는 것을 정당화할 만큼 큰 발전은 아니라고 생각한다.HJ Mitchell Penny, 당신의 생각은? 2010년 3월 23일 21시 18분 (UTC)[응답하라]
반대. 큰 이야기는 암살 그 자체였지, 어떤 사소한 외교적 추방도 아니었다.그리고 이것은 한 영국인에게서 나온 것이다.2010년 3월 23일 Modest Geniustalk 22:15 (UTC)[응답]
HJMitchel Wikireader41 (대화) 02:40, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답하라]에 따라 반대한다.

아일랜드의 개각

아일랜드의 개각.중간 크기많은 새로운 부서가 생겼다.[23] 어떤가?카고킹토크 17:03, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]

반대해. 오늘 프랑스에도 있었어.나는 정부의 완전한 변화를 초래하지 않는 어떤 내각의 변화에도 반대한다고 말하고 싶다. 다시 말해서, 우리는 의회제도에서 수상의 변화를 추구한다.Physchim62(talk) 20:02, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
로이터 통신은 재무장관이 자신의 입장을 유지하는 것에 대해 기뻐하는 것 같다.BBCe대만뉴스는 국제적인 취재를 하는 다른 예다. --candlewicke 20:56, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
반대한다. 다른 나라의 뉴스 방송국에서 보도한다고 해서 그것이 게시될 만큼 충분히 주목할 만하다는 뜻은 아니다.만약 우리가 모든 개각('주요' 개각)을 올리면, 우리는 홍수에 파묻힐 것이다.2010년 3월 23일 Modest Genius 22:18 (UTC)[응답]
반대 많은 나라에서 매년 옐로몬키(남성화이트 펜스 슈퍼모델 사진 투표) 04:08, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]가 있을 것이다.
반대 어떤 국가 원수나 정부의 변화도 사실 에메랄드 섬 밖에서는 그렇게 큰 문제가 되지 않는 널리 보도된 이야기를 만든다.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 04:10, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답하라]

영국 우주국

영국의 새로운 우주국, 4월 1일부터 시작.특히 영어권 국가에서 새로운 우주 항공사가 출범하는 일은 흔치 않다.마이크 필 (토크) 2010년 3월 23일 21:34 (UTC)[응답]

대박!확실한 지지.아무리 상상력을 발휘해도 매일 일어나는 일이 아니고, 글의 모양도 좋아 보인다.HJ MitchellPenny, 당신의 생각은? 2010년 3월 23일 21시 57분 (UTC)[응답하라]
반대한다. 2억 3천만 파운드의 예산, 내 고향의 교육 예산과 견줄 만한 예산; 이 영역(또는 당신이 원한다면 이 영역(혹은 이 spherroid를 넘어서)에서 영국의 겸손한 노력에 대한 자원과 책임의 재분배; 10대 BBC 이야기에는 포함되지 않는다: 오늘날 BBC 과학/자연 이야기 톱도 없다.케빈 맥(토크) 22:14, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
음... BBC 과학 환경 페이지 봤어?그것은 어느 정도 조직, tbh의 깊은 오징어처럼 보이지만, 여전히... 우주국이다!마이크 필 (토크) 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC) 22:20[응답]
이 범주에서 맨 위에 표시되지만 맨 위에 표시되지는 않음.케빈 맥(토크) 22:38, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
4월 1일 중립 지원.그것은 근본적으로 흥미롭지만, 또한 꽤 작은 튀김이고, 단지 기존의 활동들을 통합할 뿐이다.(BBC 웹사이트에 게재된 이야기의 상대적 순위는 독자의 위치에 따라 달라지므로 결과가 다를 수 있음을 기억하라.)편집: 그것은 실제로 4월 1일에 일을 시작하는데, 그 곳에서 그것은 훌륭할 것이다.2010년 3월 23일 Modest Geniustalk 22:23 (UTC)[응답]
영국이 우주 비행을 시도할 것인지 아닌지에 대한 언급이 있었는가, 아니면 이것은 연구와 삿텔라이트만을 위한 것인 것처럼 일본이나 캐나다와 유사한 우주국에 불과한 것인가? --PlasmaTwa2 22:24, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
지금 포스팅은 확실하지 않지만 4월 1일에 시작하는 것이 좋을 것 같다. --Tone 22:24, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
만우절 장난으로 가기로 했다면 누군가 문레이커를 놀릴 방법을 찾았으면 좋겠다. --플라스마Twa2 22:27, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
오, 좋은 생각이야.2010년 3월 23일 Modest Geniustalk 22:29 (UTC)[응답]
영국 공군도 4월 1일에 창설되었다.하늘을 나는 것에 대해 말하는 것... --tone 22:34, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
지원 이것은 인간의 우주 탐험에 관심이 있는 모든 사람들에게 크고 큰 뉴스다.확실히 ITN의 가치가 있다.__메코 (대화) 09:17, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
로고가 1면에 나타나면 흰색이 투명성으로 대체된 변형된 이미지를 사용한 위키백과의 문제를 강조할 것이기 때문이다.대화 참조:영국 우주국 81.156.235.144 (대화) 10:10, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
로고는 공정한 용도로만 사용되므로 메인 페이지에서는 사용할 수 없다는 점에 유의하십시오.마이크 필 (토크)2010년 3월 25일 (UTC) 20:31 [응답]
우주 아이템은 항상 허용되고 언젠가 어떤 일을 할 수도 있기 때문에 지원하라. - SusanLesch (대화) 02:57, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
나는 여전히 이것이 만우절 아이템으로 더 나을 것이라고 생각한다.그리고 나는 계속해서 ITNR의 스페이스 섹션에 대해 살펴보려고 하는데, 그것은 분명히 개정할 필요가 있다.머디드 지니어스 00:40, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]

난핑시 실험초등학교 학살 사건

중국 푸젠성의 한 초등학교에서 한 남성이 학생 8명을 흉기로 찔러 숨지게 했다.출처:타임즈 그룬들2600 (토크) 00:05, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답하라]

BBC 뉴스에서도.8명의 사망자가 학교 흉기에 충분한가?그런 식으로 말하면 끔찍하지만 만약 폴란드나 캐나다에서 사건이 일어났다면 우리는 이 이야기를 운영할 것인가?그럴 것 같은데, 그러니까 응원해줘.Physchim62(talk) 00:13, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
확장 시 지원브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 00:27, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
기사의 확장을 지원하다.이런 사건은 초등학교에서 흔한 일이 아니다.~AH1(TCU) 01:40, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
내가 할 수 있는 일은 다 했지만, 이번 일은 꽤 어렵다.내가 찾을 수 있는 모든 출처는...그것은 마치 그들이 모두 "땅 위에" 하나의 보고서, 같은 몇 가지 세부사항, 여기 저기 몇 가지 명백한 복사 오류, 그리고 PRC에서 이전의 칼 공격을 재탕하는 것과 같다.나는 이것을 끝내려면 중국어가 필요할 것 같아.브래드제임스브라운 (대화) 07:27, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답하라]

지원 초등학교 사망자가 꽤 많은 칼부림?그게 얼마나 흔한 일인가?별로 그렇지 않다.그리고 중국에서도.ITN에 대한 기사 모양이 잡혀있으니, 이것이 적절한 아이템이라고 생각한다.__meco (대화) 09:47, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]

나는 이 게시물에 대해 양면적이긴 하지만, 만약 미국에서 이런 일이 일어난다면, 그것은 순식간에 ITN으로 올려질 것이라는 것을 알고 싶었다.콜리폰+(토크) 23:12, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]

이 부분에 무능력한 관리자가 숨어 있는지 여부에 따라 달라지겠지그렇지 않으면, 토론은 WP:FA의 몸값은 길다.하워드 05:54, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
지지하다.8명의 죽음은 끔찍하고 초등학교에서 "지나친" 죽음이다. - SusanLesch (대화) 02:55, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
지지하다.이런 상황에서 8명의 사망자를 무시하기 어렵다. --candlewicke 21:53, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
지지하다.비극적인 사건, 괜찮은 기사.나는 그것을 약간 복사해 놓았지만 그것은 최소한의 요구조건에 부합하는 것 이상이다.HJ MitchellPenny, 네 생각은 어때? 03:24, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답하라]
혹시 게시될 수 있는거야?브래드제임스브라운 (토크) 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC) 17:52 [응답]
기사는 이제 충분히 긴 것 같다. ~AH1(TCU) 00:06, 2010년 3월 27일 (UTC)[응답]

SpaceShipTwo는 첫 비행에서 보여진다.

SS2 and VMS Eve.jpg

우리는 12월에 우주선이 공개되었을 때 이것을 특징으로 하는 것에 대해 토론했다.그리고 나서 몇몇 편집자들은 그것의 첫 시험 비행까지 기다리기를 원했다.이제 우리는 그것을 얻었고, 우리는 이 이야기를 게시해야 한다.또, 영국 우주국 발표를 게재하기로 결정하면, ITN에 2개의 우주 비행 관련 아이템이 백 투백되어 깔끔할 것이다.__meco (토크) 09:40, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]

에러, 나는 그 전화들이 포획-화물 운송 안전 테스트가 아닌 우주로의 처녀 비행(혹은 유료 고객과의 첫 비행인가?)에 대한 것이었다고 생각한다.그때까지 반대하라.2010년 3월 24일(UTC) Modesttalk Genius 21:32[응답]
사실, 당신 자신이 두 가지 주목할 만한 이정표의 예를 들었고, 그 중 하나는 지금 우리가 보고 있는 것("날아가는 것"과 최초의 유료 승객은 이정표다."). 또한 톤은 첫 번째 시험 비행이 발표되었을 때 이것을 게시하는 것을 지지했다.다른 사람들도 그랬다.나는 우리가 이 우주선에 대해 어떤 것을 게시하기 전에 돈을 지불하는 고객들과의 첫 번째 상업적 우주 비행을 최소한으로 고려해야 한다면, 당신이 그 우주선을 너무 높이 평가하고 있다고 믿는다.__메코 (대화) 08:16, 2010년 3월 25일 (UTC)[응답]
그랬나? 글쎄, 나는 놀랄 정도로 일관성이 있어. 왜냐하면 위에서 말한 것과 정확히 같은 사건들이기 때문이야. ('물체를 날리다'는 것은 분명히 내가 첫번째 우주 비행을 의미했어.)머디드 지니어스 00:38, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]
나는 수억 달러의 돈을 가진 소수의 사람들을 제외하고는 완전히 쓸모없는 속임수 제품들에 사로잡히지 않는다; 우리는 소더비의 모든 미술품 경매나 데니스 티토, 또는 복제품 맥라렌 F1 자동차들을 나열할 것인가?옐로몬키(남성·화이트펜스 슈퍼모델 사진 여론조사) 00:29, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]
그녀가 우주에 도달할 까지 반대해. 그리고 나는 분명히 그때까지도 그것을 지지하지 않을 거야.YellowMonkey와 거의 일치한다.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 00:32, 2010년 3월 26일 (UTC)[응답]

3월 22일

3월 22일 ITN 후보자들

구글은 중국에서 철수한다.

구글이 해킹과 검열을 둘러싼 논란에 이어 중국 검색엔진을 사실상 철수시켰다.카고킹토크 20:30, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답]

지지하다.분명히 매우 중요하고, 세계 최대의 인터넷 시장에서.콜리폰+(토크)20:35, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답]
google.cn을 입력하면 결국 홍콩으로 가게 된다.카고킹토크 20:52, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답]
든든한 지지.구글은 중국에서 중요하고 인기 있는 검색엔진이다. ~AH1(TCU) 22:31, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답]
btw 기사는 Google_China야. 지금 올라가야 해. 구글이 공식적으로 뭔가를 하는 순간을 기다리기 위해 두 번 늦췄어. 누군가 철수하는 것을 더 이상 기다릴 필요가 없을 것 같아.이 행동은 충분하고도 남는다. 강한 지지.
지지하다.정말 두 번이나 연기했는데, 이제 실제로 일어난 일인데, 이제 올라갈 때가 된 것 같아.HJ MitchellPenny, 당신의 생각은? 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답]
이번에는 실제로 그런 일이 있었다.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 23:02, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답하라]
지지하다.'중국인터넷 사용자 검색 결과 검열해킹을 놓고 줄지어 검열하는 구글스톱스talk' 2010년 3월 22일(UTC) 답글
다시 생각해보면, 그 마지막 두 가지 일반적인 연결고리는 중화인민공화국오로라 작전의 좀 더 구체적인 인터넷 검열로 연결될 수 있을 것이다.2010년 3월 22일 모데드 천재 23장 21절 (UTC)[응답]
강력한 지원군, 그걸 제안하러 왔어.마르쿠스 아우렐리우스 안토니누스 (토크) 23:57, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답]
Google China 업데이트 먼저 필요 - Dumelow (talk) 00:01, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
단지 중화인민공화국의 인터넷 검열은 중국 본토에서 차단된 기사라는 메모일 뿐이다.또한 구글 차이나 기사의 주요 내용은 일문일답이지만, 이것을 기사에 추가하기 위해 참고문헌이 추가될 수 있다.~AH1(TCU) 00:24, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
그 기사를 포함하지 않음으로써 우리 스스로 검열을 하자는 거야?!난 그게 정말 웃기는지 소름끼치는지 모르겠어.2010년 3월 23일 Modest Genius 01:23 (UTC)[응답]
나는 그들이 대부분의 주요 웹사이트를 차단하기 때문에 중국에서 차단된 것에 대해 걱정할 필요가 없다고 생각한다.중국 시청자들도 메인 페이지를 볼 수 있을지 의문이다(나는 위키백과 전체가 차단되었다고 생각했다...) -- Ashish-g55 00:30, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
"구글이 중국 사업을 홍콩으로 이전한다"는 말이 더 나을 것이다.구글은 실제로 중국에서의 영업을 중단하지 않았고, 베이징의 모든 직원을 유지하고 있다.단지 중국 사용자들이 이제 이전의 구글 차이나와 정확히 동일한 사용자 인터페이스를 가진 홍콩 서버로 리디렉션될 뿐이다.콜리폰+(토크) 00:33, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
지지, 하지만 난 그게 까다로운 헛소리라고 생각해.나는 지금까지 일어난 일이 (과거 위키피디아가 그랬던 것처럼) 다른 관할구역의 다른 서버로 간단히 리디렉션되는 것이라는 콜리폰의 의견에 동의한다.또한 PRC/ROC 문제도 있는데, 우리는 항상 (적어도) 정중하게 시정 요청을 받는다.현재 내가 생각할 수 있는 가장 좋은 모호함은 "구글은 검열을 피하기 위해 .cn 도메인의 서비스가 이제 홍콩으로 리디렉션될 것이라고 발표한다"이다.Physchim62(talk) 00:49, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
그것은 좋은 말인데, 덧붙이자면, "구글은 중국 정부의 검열을 피하기 위해 홍콩 서버로 .cn 도메인을 리디렉션한다."는 것이다.콜리폰+(토크) 01:05, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
마지막 트윗 하나:
그러나 대담한 기사에 대한 업데이트는 현재 나의 (상대적으로 낮은) 기준에도 미치지 못한다.재료는 충분하지만, 나는 곧 자러 가야 한다. (우리의 최선을 다해서 행복하다.)업데이트를 위한 적절한 인라인 레퍼런스, 여러 출처(이 이야기에 대한 세가지 출처가 있기 때문에) 및 소량의 토론(문장이 몇 개면 충분하며, 게시 관리자가 몇 개 더 원할 수 있음)을 원한다.Physchim62(talk) 01:34, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답하라]
정확하지 않다.구글의 Google.cn 면허는 그들이 스스로 검열을 하도록 요구한다.중국 정부는 결과를 필터링하지 않고 있었다.구글은 무엇이 검열되어야 하는지 추측해야 했다.가장 정확하게:
아마도 이것은 매우 까다로울 것이다.제호만 02:04, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]

강력한 지지 장기적으로는 이것이 올해 최고의 이야기들 중 하나가 될 것이다.Wrotesolid (대화) 01:22, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답하라]

와 같은 지원.스펜서T♦Nominate! 02:34, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
위와 같은 강력한 지원.위키리더41 (대화) 02:51, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
더 많은 인용구로 확대되었을 때 지원. --BorgQueen (토크) 06:19, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
지원:아까 내가 지명한 건데 오늘 이것도 확정됐어.기사의 작은 확장을 해 보았다. --GPPande 10:10, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
수포트.--존셀락 (대화) 11시 55분, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
주변에 관리자가 없으십니까?이것은 올라갈 다른 것이 필요한가 (혹은 더 많은 지원;) …? -- Ashish-g55 13:02, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
참고: 현재 섹션은 이 웹 사이트의 단순한 저작권 위반이다.우리는 독창적인 것이 필요하다. -- 타리카브죠투 14:14, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답하라]
음, 누군가 업데이트 할 수 있는 것 보다.과감하게 바꿔라.그러고 싶지만 나는 바쁘다.카고킹토크 21:58, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]
나는 그 한 단락의 단어를 바꾸어 위키백과를 했다.지금 게시해도 충분한가? ~AH1(TCU) 01:47, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
개인적으로 더 많은 정보원을 보고 싶다.그것들이 부족할 것 같지는 않다.HJ MitchellPenny, 네 생각은 어때? 02:02, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답하라]
나는 왜 우리가 더 많은 소스를 기다리고 있는지 모르겠다.나는 공식 구글 블로그를 출처 중 하나로 본다.그것보다 더 믿을 만하지 않아그것은 이미 2일 이상을 기다리고 있다. 만약 그들이 모두 원래의 소스(구글 블로그)를 제공한다면 더 많은 소스가 그것을 더 좋게 만들지는 못한다.-- Ashish-g55 13:10, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
오로라 작전과 후폭풍과 함께 검열 부분이 꽤 크다.빨리 올려야 돼. --GPPande 14:31, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]
게시. --Smashvilletalk 14:47, 2010년 3월 24일 (UTC)[응답]

모리타니아의 대외 관계(또는 이스라엘)

반대: 두 나라 사이의 외교 분쟁은 한 달도 안 되는 기간 동안 세 번 반복된다.이전 두 가지 후보작을 참조하십시오.
위키백과:In_the_news/Candidates/2010년 3월#ITN_candidates_for_19 나이지리아-리비아 대사 소환
위키백과:In_the_news/Candidates/2010년 3월#ITN_candidates_for_11 터키-스웨덴 관계가 결렬되다.
이런 유형의 뉴스는 매우 흔하며 나는 계속해서 반대할 것이다.ITN은 이들의 무작위 행동에 따라 여러 나라의 대외관계 기사가 쇄도할 것이다.ITN에 이러한 유형의 뉴스를 홍보하는 것을 중지해야 한다. --GPPande 09:11, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답]
불행히도 반대하라, 그것은 그렇게 흔하지 않다. 그리고 이스라엘과 다른 한쪽이 이슬람 국가라는 것은 그것을 훨씬 덜 놀라게 한다.브래드 제임즈브라운 (대화) 23:05, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답하라]
반대 이것은 공식적인 관계 단절일 뿐이며, 실제 조치가 일어났을 때 ITN에 앞서 언급하였다.스펜서T♦Nominate! 02:38, 2010년 3월 23일 (UTC)[응답]

미국 의료비 청구서

이것은 어제 날짜에 매우 상세하게 논의된다. --candlewicke 05:38, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답]
우와, 잘 알아들었어.Weatherguy1033 (대화) 05:49, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답]

이것은 단순히 국제적으로 관련이 없다.다른 나라들도 국내 주요 이슈가 있다. 78.146.140.195 (대화) 19:37, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답하라]

응, 그리고 그 문제들도 보고해. --토르소독Talk 21:20, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답]

3월 21일

3월 21일 ITN 후보자들

스벤 크레이머가 세계 올라운드 스피드 스케이팅 채미온쉽에서 4회 연속 우승한 첫 번째 선수가 된다.

나는 스피드 스케이팅에 전문가는 아니지만 그 성과가 두드러진다.이 스포츠가 인기 있는 나라들이 꽤 있다.하지만, 4회 연속 우승은 스포츠 통계로 들리고 나는 ITN에 있는 사람들의 팬이 아니다.일단 중립. --tone 22:07, 2010년 3월 21일 (UTC)[응답]
반대한다. 스피드 스케이팅은 몇몇 나라 밖에서는 비교적 작은 스포츠다.이것은 매년 열리는 세계 스피드 스케이팅 선수권 대회 중 하나일 뿐이며 2010년 동계 올림픽 직후에 개최된다.세계 종합 스피드 스케이팅 선수권 대회# 1인당 세계 종합 스피드 스케이팅 선수권 대회 총액은 다른 2명이 총 4개, 2명이 연속 5.4개라는 것을 보여준다.2010년 세계 올라운드 스피드스케이팅 선수권대회#남자선수권은 현재와 같은 자리 표시자에 불과하다.프라임헌터(토크) 22:47, 2010년 3월 21일 (UTC)[응답]
각종 대회 중 올라운드가 단연 가장 중요하다.적어도 4개의 타이틀을 획득한 다른 한 사람을 제외한 모든 사람들은 제2차 세계대전 전에 비길 수 없는 상황에서 그렇게 했다.게다가, 크라머는 지난 4번의 유럽 올 라운드 챔피언쉽에서 우승했는데, 이것은 그의 업적이 정말로 타의 추종을 불허하는 또 다른 기록이다.세피아카르타딤미 11시 15분, 2010년 3월 22일 (UTC)[응답]
Neutral on importance: this does seem to be the biggest event in (long-track) speed skating outside the olympics, so an argument could well be made. More people are interested in speed skating than, for example, hurling. However, the article itself is nothing but a results table, of which half the results are missing, Strong oppose unless and until it's brought up to scratch. Modest Genius talk 22:50, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Speed skating is, in my opinion, one of those sports where even the World Championships pale in comparison to the Olympic Games, so I just can't get behind this as really being news in light of PrimeHunter's points. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 01:57, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree, and furthermore a large difference is that there is no allround at the Olympics, whereas allround really is the one championship that selects the overall best skater.sephia karta dimmi 11:15, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Interesting sport, "world championship", international coverage. CBC, USA Today, Radio Netherlands Worldwide. --candlewicke 03:05, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support But as it is big in the Netherlands and Norway, It seems not that important in other countries unfortunatly --Black Orchid (talk) 10:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Obama's healthcare

Just passed a minute ago I think. Link anyway [25]. — Cargoking talk 21:30, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If I remember, we've had a consensus to post this if the reform passes? It does not seem to have passed yet, according to the websites. --Tone 22:07, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support if this passes. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:08, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Appears the vote will be a decent bit later on tonight. Support, though, after the vote; this is going to be the story tomorrow either way. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 22:16, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support - The voting process is currently 1/3 complete and should be finished within the next two to five hours. We should prepare in advance a headline for both possible outcomes, so that we can get it up on ITN as soon as it is official. C M B J 22:37, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
whats the hurry for posting it "as soon as its official"?. article update is also required before it goes up -- Ashish-g55 00:19, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
People will be looking for the article tonight. C M B J 00:39, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sample headline:
The 111th United States Congress votes 435-0 in favor of enacting the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
The 111th United States Congress votes 0-435 against enacting the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
C M B J 22:50, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, so far they seemed to have managed to agree on how they're going to debate and vote... CMBJ's suggestions need tweaking for accuracy:
The United States House of Representatives approves both the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act and the Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010, the main health care reform measures.
The United States House of Representatives rejects the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act in a 435–0 vote.
Physchim62 (talk) 00:06, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. It might be a good idea in the blurb to briefly mention something the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will do, although frankly I'm not quite sure what the Senate bill does and what the reconciliation bill does. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:16, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support - I still don't really understand how this works I admit. It seems that the House is going to pass their version of the bill and the Senate still have to reconcile their version to the House bill but the President is going to sign it into law even though there isn't even a single/unified version yet (so I'm not really sure what he's signing into law) but anyway if he's signing it into law I guess that's significant. Nil Einne (talk) 02:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • According to this source, the bill just passed by the House contains "the bulk of reform". A second, smaller bill will be voted on in the Senate, & because it is a "reconciliation" the vote can not be filibustered. (Yes, this process is ugly & not even us Yanks completely understand what's happening.) -- llywrch (talk) 03:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Wait, so there are two? And this is the first and a second will be voted on later? I would oppose the posting of both on separate occasions unless there is good reason to do so. --candlewicke 03:16, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The supplementary bill (HR4872) has just passed the House but will have to be revisited by the Senate later this week. This detail can always be added to the blurb after it is posted. C M B J 03:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The bill just passed 219-212. C M B J 02:50, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now we just wait two days (or maybe longer). --candlewicke 03:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Have we settled on a blurb? If so, you could try posting at AN. It's a big story so you might be able to attract a passing admin. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 03:05, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Should that be done for this though? It might be unfair on any others who have to wait. I imagine they have more important things to be getting on with over there. Plus it's not an emergency. --candlewicke 03:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) This is front-page news in the US, & will positively affect the lives of millions of people; I expected to see it mentioned in the Front Page box. So a quickly adding is justified. (I'd volunteer to do it with my k-rad kewl Admin powers, but I have to help get my daughter to bed.) -- llywrch (talk) 03:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not saying it shouldn't be there but it would be good if it could be done correctly and when it has been confirmed, etc. Disasters happen and people die but have to wait several hours to appear on ITN. The delay in those cases doesn't mean they are less significant and any delay in this case is just the same. --candlewicke 03:35, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think there's a need to wait for Obama's signature to post the item. It's a foregone conclusion, just as soon as they can get fancy pens for the occasion. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 03:13, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But then it hasn't even been officially signed yet? Election results have to wait until they are certain so why not this too? And where is my previous comment? --candlewicke 03:19, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) Candlewick, it was lost apparently in an e/c. I restored it. -- llywrch (talk) 03:29, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: From an international point of view, I'd prefer to wait until the U.S. President actually signs the bill into official law. Getting it passed by the U.S. House of Representatives is only one part in a multi-step process. Not every country uses an American or Westminster system of government, and so the amount of significance would be foreign to those people. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:28, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
From what I understand, the House passed the Senate's version version, & Obama has pledged to sign it. (If he doesn't according to the Constitution it automatically becomes law in a matter of days.) This vote means, in few words, that 90% of the process is done; all that is left is the shouting. -- llywrch (talk) 03:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What "fixes"? --candlewicke 03:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is the core piece of legislature which has been passed by both legislative bodies. The Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010 is a supplementary bill which has been passed by the House but not by the Senate. C M B J 03:47, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support but per Zzyzx11, best to wait until it is signed. -SusanLesch (talk) 03:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm confused now. There doesn't appear to be any certainty that this has definitely happened or that it won't be blocked or undone or whatever applies. If he doesn't sign it it becomes law in "a matter of days"? So why not wait for these days to pass just to be certain? --candlewicke 03:40, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The bill has successfully passed both the House and Senate, and President Obama is currently giving a speech in support of the result. C M B J 03:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment For clarification my point above about the President signing was solely related to if he was signing it, then there most be something to sign not suggesting we have to wait for him to sign. I don't personally know if we do have to wait, it's a basically a forgone conclusion in this case. As a counter example, I don't know if we usually wait for royal assent, although that's even more of a foregone conclusion. I still don't entirely understand the Senate thing, I read it only required a 51 vote majority a long time ago but it still seemed possible they'd ultimately never come to an agreement if they kept passing different versions but as I understand it now, they've mostly agreed what to pass and more importantly, the core part which is the same as the original Senate version is passed so worst case scenario, they have that which can't be taken back by either Congress individually (well they could both pass a bill to cancel the earlier bill I guess but that's different) and it's only awaiting the President's signature. The Senate could say screw you and refuse to pass the modifications in which case the House will be pissed I guess but they can't undo what they passed. Nil Einne (talk) 03:48, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Even if by some unforeseeable 1/1,000,000,000,000 chance Obama were to veto this bill, its passage alone would still be the most significant U.S. story since the 2008 election results. C M B J 04:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If an accurate blurb can be agreed upon and assuming the article has been updated, I'd support posting it now simply because it's news now. I'll admit to being totally baffled as to what's actually happened (or is going to happen?) but it is big news and people will be expecting to see it on ITN. It won;t be long before it's notable by its absence. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 04:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose until bill is actually signed into law. Keep calm and carry on. Madcoverboy (talk) 05:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So it definitely hasn't been signed into law? --candlewicke 05:24, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Correct—that is the only step which remains—but it could be later this week before it happens. Because Wikipedia is the first resource that many people turn to for details on important events, and based on the overwhelming precedent (57,766 new articles per hour, Presidential reaffirmation, climax of a years-long saga, etc) for ITN inclusion, it is my personal opinion that we should act now rather than later. Here is a list of major sources which currently list this bill on their front-page:
CNN: House passes health care reform, cheers as gavel comes down
ABC News: 'WHAT CHANGE LOOKS LIKE': Health Care Bill Passes
Fox News: CONGRESS PASSES HEALTH REFORM
Times Online: Barack Obama wins healthcare battle in tight vote
New York Times: House Approves Health Overhaul, Sending Landmark Bill to Obama
Los Angeles Times: Historic healthcare bill passes
BBC News: US House passes key health vote
News.com.au: Health vote delivers Obama dream
The Australian: Obama makes health reform 'history'
Sky News Obama's health care bill passed
Xinhua: U.S. House passes historic health insurance reform
NBC: HOUSE SENDS HEALTH CARE BILL TO OBAMA
China Central Television: Democrats secure votes for passage of health care bill
Reuters: House approves sweeping healthcare overhaul
CBS News: Health Care Bill Passes in House
Washington Post: House passes historic health-reform bill
Newsweek: The Guide to Obamacare's Effect on You
NPR: House Passes Historic Health Care Legislation
Voice of America: Health Care Reform Clears US Congress
PBS NewsHour: House Passes Historic Health Care Reform Legislation C M B J 06:16, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've changed to the other blurb, no need to put the numbers. --Tone 08:30, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't forget Aljazeera!: US passes landmark healthcare bill Therequiembellishere (talk) 10:30, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Iceland volcano

Looks good, only needs some more prose. --Tone 14:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The article Eyjafjallajökull is updated. Apparently, the eruption is not that big, but still has some impact. --Tone 19:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This is Iceland: it would be rather more unusual if there wasn't a volcanic eruption going on. No major danger to people or property, not scientifically unusual, can't see any reason to post this. Modest Genius talk 20:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I'm no volcanologist, but I'd say a volcano erupting for the first time in two centuries is pretty significant. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 20:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hardly, that happens all the time. There are so many dormant volcanoes that a substantial fraction of all eruptions are 'the first in centuries' from that volcano. Modest Genius talk 21:09, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Volcanoes erupt on Iceland all the time. This one caused a bit of a stir because the authorities closed the main road from east to west because the contingency measures are developed for a worst case scenario. This event is on the opposite end of the scale. Noone even noticed the eruption until people saw the smoke rising after perhaps several hours. This event does have potential to become big if the neigbouring volcano Hekla Katla blows, which is a possibility. Let's not post anything now. __meco (talk) 21:02, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. "This could trigger Katla, which is a vicious volcano that could cause both local and global damage," Pall Einarsson, from the University of Iceland, said.--The lorax (talk) 21:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When it comes to ITN, 'could' is generally insufficient. Modest Geniustalk 21:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, come to think of it, I agree with you. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 21:30, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, let's wait. This looked a bigger thing in the morning... --Tone 22:07, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hossein Marashi

  • Former Iranian Vice-President Hossein Marashi was jailed on Wednesday, was revealed by a relative on Friday and is nominated here on Sunday. (BBC) (TIME). --candlewicke 09:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The Islamic Republic has ten vice-presidents, and Marashi was a minor one, not First Vice President, and he's only in jail for a year. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 16:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. From my understanding of Iranian politics, that's not really an unusual event and this guy is not that important. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 20:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Linheraptor

Is it an important dinosaur? It was discovered by a British student and mentioned in a British newspaper. On the other hand " the first near complete skeleton of its kind to be found in the Gobi desert in China since 1972" sounds promising. --candlewicke 10:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Interesting story, article is decent and, for a change, it's not bad news! HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 20:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support it's interesting, and some good science stories on ITN are always good. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 20:54, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Among the science stories, the new dinosaur species have a major part. But why not, the article is in decent shape. Though we may want to make guidelines a bit stricter for dinosaurs... --Tone 21:02, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral. Interesting, but we've had quite a few of these over the last year. Is this some kind of golden age for new dinosaur species, or are we just featuring something that's pretty common and only of interest because it's a dinosaur? PS. For reasons I can't put my finger on, it seems weird to class this as a 'science' story. Yes, palaeontology is a science, but it's not like we have a quota to fill with dinosaurs, particle accelerators, interplanetary probes and cloning. Modest Geniustalk 22:30, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional support. Although discoveries of genuses are more spetacular, dinosaur discoveries are fairly significant. However I support this only if we start posting more climate science and activism-related news stories dispite the probation in effect (for example the Mertz Glacier event that wasn't posted and the earlier International Day of Climate Action story that also wasn't posted). ~AH1(TCU) 22:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever the consensus is, hadn't we better wrap this one up? Either feature the news item or don't; with it being six days since the nomination, it's almost not news anymore. Oh no! It's not here!!! (talk) 22:37, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

March 20

ITN candidates for March 20

2010 Six Nations Championship

France win the Grand Slam at the 2010 Six Nations Championship (Rugby Union). ITNR event - Dumelow (talk) 21:31, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Major international rugby tournament (from my pathetic knowledge of the sport) and on ITNR. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 22:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 23:37, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support ITN/R event, about as big as it gets in rugby. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 00:03, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, though it should be better phrased to make it clear that France have won the championship (for those who don't know what a grand slam is). Something like:
"In rugby union, France win the 2010 Six Nations Championship with a Grand Slam" Modest Geniustalk 00:18, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support: How about "In rugby union, France achieve the Grand Slam to win the 2010 Six Nations Championship(Stade de France pictured)" or is that correct terminology? --candlewicke 04:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added a picture of the Stade de France where I believe the final game took place. --candlewicke 04:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've expanded it in the same way as 2009, it is cited, I don't know what else to do? France win their first Six Nations Grand Slam in rugby union since 2004 (Stade de France pictured). --candlewicke 09:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Posted, although I must say it was tough for me to put that wording up. It just sounds so wrong, but I knew one of you would be unhappy if I switched it to American English. -- tariqabjotu 18:08, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

After 7 years, Perelman awarded the $1 million for Poincare conjecture

Support this seems to be pretty interesting. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 09:07, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It's a bit old but the prize was actually awarded now and this in one of the rare occasions that we can feature a maths topic. The updates to the articles are there. --Tone 09:18, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posted - Dumelow (talk) 11:09, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support. Is it worth adding the Millennium Prizes to ITNR? A proof of any of the remaining 6 problems would be massive news in mathematics. Modest Geniustalk 15:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd support that- the six left are so major, putting them up should be a foregone conclusion. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 15:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I added them to ITNR. Modest Geniustalk 15:50, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can I suggest that Perelman's article be the one bolded, as it is the one with the largest update. Currently, the bolded article now wouldn't meet minimum standards (or if so, barely). I will make the change, but if someone feels differntly, please revert. SpencerT♦Nominate! 03:15, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pope to Publish pastoral letter on child abuse

After months of waiting, today the Pope will issue a pastoral letter on child abuse in Ireland. It is written to the Irish Roman Catholic Church, but it is believed that it will gather the attention of other countries affected by abuse. Coverage from Ireland, Aljazeera, UK, Australia, USA, Canada and others. — Cargoking talk 08:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nearly 2000 Google News results [26]. — Cargoking talk 13:40, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This had 7,000 results a week after the event and even that didn't get in. –Howard the Duck 13:51, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there an article anywhere? Modest Geniustalk 15:32, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Ireland is the relevant article but needs updating. — Cargoking talk 15:51, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support for reasons other than Google. The release of this letter has been anticipated for some time and its official signing was covered by the international media yesterday, i.e. (The Irish Times)(CBC)(Deutsche Welle)(Christian Science Monitor)(CNN). It has now been released and is continuing to receive international attention. It will be read in public tomorrow and will get more attention. It is the first ever response from the Pope to this issue which has been gaining more and more international attention, i.e. around Europe this year and in Brazil and Chile just recently. --candlewicke 20:05, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support not common for pope to comment on child abuse by catholic priests.Wikireader41 (talk) 21:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support this is an important story. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 23:38, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

() Updated. How about:

Pope, 13 march 2007.jpg

Posted -- tariqabjotu 17:57, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Oh boy, like if we need anymore evidence of wikipedia's anti-catholic bias. Something that has barely gotten media attention goes up simply to disparage the pope. 63.215.29.202 (talk) 04:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it got little coverage in Chicago (where your IP is from) but it has been big news here in the UK and I can only imagine that it got massive coverage in Ireland. No one is trying to disparage the Pope, we simply feature Wikipedia articles relevant to current events Like it or not, this is a current event of interest to many people - Dumelow (talk) 09:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Girija Prasad Koirala

Death of the man who was the first directly elected prime minister, who served four times in that role in addition to acting president when the king was suspended. Brokered the end of the Nepalese Civil War and the transition into a full multi-party elected democratic republic after 240 years of monarchial rule. Washington Post, BBC News, NPR Therequiembellishere (talk) 15:38, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Seems a very significant person and article is in a decent shape. It'll need a little work though, especially some more information on his death. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 22:30, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've updated the article with more information about his death and reaction. I believe it's now sufficient in terms of quality to go up, though I'll keep working on it. Any support? Any?? He was obviously a major figure in (very recent) Nepali and Southern Asian politics. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 03:35, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support; important figure in the fall of the Nepalese Monarchy, former head of government and head of state. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 03:43, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Obvious support. He was "worried about the country in the last days of his life and tried work out an agreement between the political parties" and (Xinhua) "while he was admitted to hospital, Koirala expressed his last wished of concluding ongoing peace process in Nepal" so sounds like he was still active. His body was presented for public viewing in Kathmandu and his death "marks the end of an era in not only Nepali but also sub-continental politics". Press TV calls him "the elder statesman of South Asia". India mourns. I bet he was Prime Minister/Head of State of Nepal longer than the average President of the United States or, maybe for a better comparison, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. --candlewicke 04:44, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Girija Prasad Koirala
  • Posted I'll sort out the picture in a second. -- tariqabjotu 17:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

March 19

ITN candidates for March 19

Death of Nigerian at Zürich Airport

Any support for an update here? Switzerland has halted all deportations and repatriation flights (which must affect possibly any country) and Nigeria has condemned the events. An investigation has been launched which must affect all who use this airport. He died on the airport tarmac which might be unusual enough as well? 13 witnesses allege "inhumane treatment" - "They dealt with us like animals. The shackled our feet, knees, hands, hips arms and torso and made us wear a helmet like those worn by boxers. It was simply impossible to move". --candlewicke 02:40, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: The Swiss were trying to enforce their law, somebody resisted (natural enough considering he was a convicted criminal), went on a hunger strike and died. The Nigerian condemnation is something they did because they have to, not because they were concerned for a man who was afraid of returning to them. The shackling part seems to be greatly exaggerated; somehow I find it very hard to believe that a man's "feet, knees, hands, hips, arms and torso" were all shackled, unless Switzerland has gone back to the medieval ages. ≈ Chamaltalk¤ 03:03, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose; and I can't really add anything but endorse Chamal N's commentary. A drug-dealer on a hunger strike isn't likely to be in great health. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 18:47, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Jackson

"The biggest recording deal in history". (BBC) (Sky News) (The Guardian) (The Times) --candlewicke 00:38, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

support finally a worthy ITN item ;-) Wikireader41 (talk) 00:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The largest record deal in history must be ITN-worthy, especially in a week as slow as this. Is there an update? HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 15:44, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
the lead of Michael Jackson has been updated. Wikireader41 (talk) 16:09, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Big news. Pyrrhus16 17:50, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There's one sentence update in the lead. It's not much, is there another article we could use (list of records or similar)? In any case, could you suggest a good blurb? --Tone 17:58, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is this, which I have updated and which is an FL. I would also suggest going with this more recent photo, instead of the old 1984 one. Pyrrhus16 18:00, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How about:

no

"The estate of Michael Jackson (pictured) and Sony Music sign the biggest recording deal in history, which includes future album deals of his unreleased material." Pyrrhus16 18:08, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good and having a FL on ITN is a nice thing as well. I'd like to see some more support for the blurb and then I'm ready to post. --Tone 18:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as above. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 18:44, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tone (talkcontribs) 18:45, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sierra Leone disaster hoax

Here is something which definitely doesn't happen every day. "The whole country is awash with grief for something that is not true at all". It was "picked up by international media. At one point, the French Foreign Ministry issued a statement in Paris offering its condolences to the mine accident victims". "This is wicked propaganda by people who don't like to see good news coming out of Sierra Leone". --candlewicke 21:42, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Where would you put an update? I don't think an article about this hoax would survive the inevitable AfD, but where else could it fit? Bradjamesbrown (talk) 22:30, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deutsche Börse Photography Prize

(BBC) French photographer Sophie Ristelhueber wins the Deutsche Börse Photography Prize. Should this be included in ITNR? There are no photography awards and this one seems international enough if it could be expanded. --candlewicke 21:18, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I might consider it but both articles are simply far too short for ITN. Besides, the prize only covers Europe. --Tone 21:33, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A photography category would be nice, but is this really the biggest prize? It's only open to Europeans for a start (though the Pulitzers are only open to those in the US, so that's not a complete impediment). Modest Geniustalk 17:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The World Press Photo of the Year seems to make sense. It is hosted by the Dutch foundation World Press Photo and is part of the "largest and most prestigious annual press photography contest" (according to Wikipedia). "After the contest, the prizewinning photographs are assembled into a traveling exhibition that is visited by over a million people in 40 countries. A yearbook presenting all prizewinning entries is published annually in six languages". This seems to suggest international significance. If the winner could be updated every year would this be a good addition to ITNR for photography? --candlewicke 20:12, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, but that's press photography, which is a small subset of all photography. Maybe no suitable award exists? I doubt it's a good idea to have separate postings for press, landscape, portrait, wildlife etc etc etc Modest Genius talk 00:22, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Google China

Economic Times Google has finally come up with a date to end its China operations. --GPPande 13:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd rather wait until they actually leave - there's plenty of time for them to change their minds yet. Also the article doesn't sound too certain on the matter: "the information has not been confirmed by Google at present" and "the report did not specify whether Google would close all or part of its operations in the country" - Dumelow (talk) 13:11, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nigeria recalls ambassador to Libya

(BBC). I have updated the article accordingly. The Nigerian ambassador has been withdrawn due to Colonel Gaddaffi urging Nigeria to split into two states (one Christian, one Muslim) in response to the recent violence. The Nigerian parliament has voted to ask the UN to stop Gaddaffi from requesting this and to ask the African Union to investigate if Libya is supplying "infiltrators" to destabilise Nigeria. Not a terribly exciting event but I am aware that we haven't had an update for a long time - Dumelow (talk) 11:05, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: I had previously mentioned that ITN should not post ambassador recall news as they are too common. See Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/March_2010#ITN_candidates_for_March_11 for Sweden-Turkey relation nomination. I had mentioned that Every month one or the other country does so in the world. but looks like we have 2 such news this month itself. Lets not clutter ITN with one more "typical news" category. --GPPande 11:22, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support of the I'd much rather post this than Sahil Saeed, and it's been two days since the last update variety. (Not a slight on anyone- this has been an incredibly slow news week.) Not thrilled with it, but we need something; the template is stagnating. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 11:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning towards support. This can be combined with dissolution of the cabinet of Nigeria two days ago. --Tone 11:42, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support: A national leader makes a serious comment against another nation's sovereignty, and they sever diplomatic ties. Only to be expected of course, but it is an internationally important event nevertheless, and this is about as close to hostile as you can get with another country without actually putting your military on stand-by. The views I expressed on the Sweden-Turkey incident stand here as well, despite the coincidence of two such events happening within a short period. ≈ Chamaltalk¤ 12:24, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Supportthis is unusual and does not happen everyday.Wikireader41 (talk) 16:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. What is the difference between this and Sweden–Turkey relations? Which part of this one is unusual? I disagree with the argument that this is a slow news week. At least 200 people are dead in Sierra Leone. --candlewicke 21:10, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Or not... but this might still be worth nominating. --candlewicke 21:39, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
well gadaffi suggested that Nigeria split into 2 countries on religious lines. cant remember last time one head of state called for the breakup of another country in such fashion. Wikireader41 (talk) 23:15, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But is that really very unusual for a man who has tried to start a war with Switzerland? --candlewicke 00:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Gaddafi is unusual. –Howard the Duck 01:06, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 18

ITN candidates for March 18

Sahil Saeed

  • The Times The 5 year old boy kidnapped in Pakistan has returned home. In itself, I don't think this is worthy of ITN and it was, rightly imho, rejected when it was previously nominated. However, I think the back story of the major operation conducted by law enforcement agencies and militaries in four different countries (Pakistan, France, Spain and the UK) to arrest his captors is more significant in the long run. Apologies for the tl;dr! Any support? HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 22:50, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We need an update, it's been 35 hours. I've looked at several papers, and the only stories I care for are this or two awarded George Cross. On a busier news day, I wouldn't be favourably disposed towards either, but it's been a slow week and we need something. Bangkok is becoming news, but I'm not sure what to make of it yet. So... weak support in the absence of anything more compelling, I guess. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 23:11, 18 March 2010 (UTC) Oppose; I see something I'd rather run now, so going my first instinct of opposition to this candidate.[reply]
Oppose on the same grounds as last time. One child was kidnapped in Pakistan, a ransom was paid, and he was recovered safely. Sadly, this is not an unusual event. Modest Geniustalk 23:35, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I agree with you, but I'm nominating the law enforcement operation which spanned 2 continents rather than the kidnapping itself, which I believe I may have opposed last time myself. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 00:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
weak support in the absence of anything better Wikireader41 (talk) 01:55, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 17

ITN candidates for March 17

French officer killed by ETA

Not sure about this one, but thought I would throw it out there. A French police officer was killed after a shoot-out with Basque terrorist group ETA members near Paris. It was the first French officer killed by ETA in their 40+ years. CNN, le Parisien, El Pais (France and Spain's largest newspapers). Grsz11 13:46, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose. Seems a bit too local for me (and I'm fairly local for this story). For background, this is the first French police officer killed by ETA, but not even the first police officer killed by ETA in France (two Spanish plain-clothes policemen were killed about 18 moths ago near Bordeaux), nor the first time that ETA has fired upon French policemen (the Spanish press just say "several serious injuries" for interactions between the French police and ETA, I can think of two occasions in the last twelve months just off the top of my head). Terrorists do not become more dangerous just because they're in Europe! Physchim62(talk) 14:41, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Physchim. While a good reminder that terrorists are close to home; the event doesn't quite have the significance I look for in ITN stories. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 20:26, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bad luck for Goodluck

Nigeria's acting president, Goodluck Jonathan, has dissolved the country's cabinet (BBC). — Cargoking talk Happy St. Patrick's Day! 20:24, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support if there's an updated article. A dissolution of parliament in a pretty large nation seems to be pretty straightforward to me.--Johnsemlak (talk) 06:48, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the cabinet, not the National Assembly of Nigeria, was dissolved, which will not lead to elections. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 20:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I would hardly call this bad luck. This is just taking cabinet-reshuffles to the extreme. Many are saying this has been done so that Jonathan can gain more authority, since the cabinet he's turfed out was full of his predecessor's appointments. In the grand scheme of things, this isn't a significant move. HonouraryMix (talk) 12:06, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bad luck was just for a pun. — Cargoking talk 17:20, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 16

ITN candidates for March 16

Guinea legislative election

Guinea holds the Guinean legislative election, 2010, the first following the 2008 Guinean coup d'état - Dumelow (talk) 12:57, 24 January 2010 (UTC) - delayed until after presidential election in June - Dumelow (talk) 11:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kasubi Tombs

A World heritage site has been destroyed. Needs some more update but I think this qualifies for ITN. --Tone 08:08, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support when expanded. --BorgQueen (talk) 08:50, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. — Cargoking talk Happy St. Patrick's Day! 09:15, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support. Exactly the sort of story I like: important, but not widely covered by mainstream media. The article is still a bit short, although it has been updated. I'll see what I can do to improve it. Physchim62(talk) 12:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Per nom and Physchim62. - JuneGloom07Talk? 12:50, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Physchim. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts?
Support I have added the riots after fire news. I think article is ready to go. --GPPande 13:13, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posting, using the modified wording from P:CE. Feel free to alter it. --Tone 13:18, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support good post, excellent to get a more history/archeology piece in.--Johnsemlak (talk) 06:49, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tiger Woods returns to golf

Tiger Woods has announced that he will return to golf starting with the 2010 Masters Tournament. At face value, I do not think that Woods' merely announcing that we will play at the Masters is ITN worthy. However, Wood's ordeal and hiatus from golf (albeit a hiatus without missing a Major tournament) has been one of the top global sports stories this winter.--Johnsemlak (talk) 18:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. That the world's best golfer decides to play golf wouldn't be a story except that he has also apparently been an asshole to his wife. I don't really think that storyline belongs on ITN. Dragons flight (talk) 19:03, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Dragons flight. "#1 golfer announces he will play at first Major of season" isn't really ITN worthy. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 19:16, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose. We are not a tabloid or celeb mag. Modest Genius talk 20:34, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as above. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll agree with Dragonsflight but disagree with Modest Genius's rational. Whatever the tabloidesque nature of this story, it has had a real impact on golf (though perhaps exaggerated in the press). If a politician were to step down due to a sex scandal I think we would post it if the politician was important enough and I don't see a difference here.--Johnsemlak (talk) 06:52, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
April 1. "After many blows, an American sportsman returns to what he does best." Physchim62(talk) 20:47, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Very good :). -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, or would be if the date was right Modest Geniustalk 21:07, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
An American golfer announces that he hopes to putt one in the right hole next week (if not before). Physchim62 (talk) 21:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
An American golfer announces that his balls will be in Augusta, Georgianext week; Augusta and Georgia refuse to comment. Physchim62(talk) 21:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
LOL for the "putt" blurb. that would be quite funny for april fools. -- Ashish-g55 22:03, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, a reminder (not least to myself) that we do need a taste-police for April-1, and that suggestions can be made to Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/In The News! I have even more Tiger Woods suggestions, I will either give one out for each new nomination on the AFoolD page, or I will refrain from giving them out, depends on the taste-police! ... Physchim62 (talk) 22:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes please to April 1 YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 07:13, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

April 1 would work well because of the proximity to the Masters, but I'm a little concerned about putting a joke at a BLP's expense on the main page, even if everyone else is already doing the same jokes. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 08:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

World's shortest man dies aged 21

The world's shortest man He Pingping dies age 21. — Cargoking talk 14:21, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose --DAI (Δ) 15:31, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It's a novelty story, the kind ITN shouldn't feature. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 15:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I concur with Brad. It's a novelty story and it's sad, but it's not important enough for the Main Page of an encyclopaedia. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 15:45, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 07:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

March 15

ITN candidates for March 15

Chile blackout

BBC - 90% of the population affected. Seems pretty unusual to blackout a whole country. Article needs some work - Dumelow (talk) 21:42, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Seems like an unusual event, though the article will need a little expansion. I'd help out, but it's getting late. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 23:09, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as above. Such a large power failure in an OECD country is definitely notable. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 23:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have expanded it a little. The article is still quite short but I think it covers just about evrything the news sites have on this event - Dumelow (talk) 20:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --candlewicke 21:31, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support- major lackouts like this aren't common occurrences; and we're overdue for an update. (Which I only mention because this is the only story for the last four days I can get behind... news is slow this week. (knocks on wood)) Bradjamesbrown (talk) 06:50, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support: A rare occurrence for country of size Chile. Article seems long enough to be posted for ITN. --GPPande 09:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ready to post, just give me a good blurb, please. --Tone 09:52, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"As much as ninety percent of Chile's population loses power in a massive blackout" Meh. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 09:55, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, that works. Posting. --Tone 10:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
thumbs upGreat! Just 1 nomination - all supports - no opposes - makes it to ITN. March 15 is indeed a good day. --GPPande 11:01, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I do love a slow news day. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 12:12, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 14

ITN candidates for March 14

British Columbia avalanche

- 3 killed, 17 injured, more missing - article: 2010 British Columbia avalanche - TouLouse (talk) 13:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Opppose. Doesn't seem particularly significant given that avalanches in winter in Canada cannot be that uncommon. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 14:09, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wait There are currently two confirmed deaths and four significant injuries. However, officials aren't certain how many (if any) people are buried. There were 150-200 people at the location when the avalanche hit [27][28]. -- Flyguy649talk 18:48, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. As The Tom says below. Sad, but not significant enough. And I'm nominating for deletion. -- Flyguy649 talk 14:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Casualties now 2 dead, all missing accounted-for. Not even the deadliest avalanche of the year in B.C. The Tom (talk) 01:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose to the point I'm not even certain the article should stay, with the latest developments. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 04:14, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Colombia legislative election

Colombia holds the Colombian legislative election, 2010 - Dumelow (talk) 12:55, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 13

ITN candidates for March 13

Kazakh dam burst

Death toll is now 35. BBC News Physchim62 (talk) 23:58, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Dam burst don't seem to happen all that often and an entire village has been evacuated. Do we have an article? HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 14:10, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
SupportWhat is the current death toll ? --yousaf465' 20:06, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Do we have an article yet, either on the dam or the bursting? Bradjamesbrown (talk) 14:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try and knock something up. I don't know much about dams, but I'll give it a try! HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 14:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Per HJ, not a very common event. It was actually two dams that burst and hundreds of people have had to be evacuated. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 15:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to post it, I am just having problems with the blurb. "A dam burst in Kazakhstan kills 35" is somehow too vague, but Kyzyl-Agash is a redlink so I can't include it. Any suggestions? --Tone 19:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Works for me... Posting. --Tone 19:50, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tour de Pakistan concludes

The longest and toughest cycling race in Asia has just concluded.Zahid Gulfam wins Tour de Pakistan cycling race. Update the relevant article. --yousaf465' 19:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support, article updated. --Saki talk 10:54, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Meh. Not international enough. This year's Tour of Luzon was won by a South African whose name can't be spelled properly by the press here. –Howard the Duck 11:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Saki you and Howard the Duck(As he a alot of experience with these can of articles) can update this article. I think successful conclusion of this event is important enough to be posted at itn.--yousaf465' 13:37, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, only the Tour de France is on ITN/R- and if we're considering covering a second cycling event, I would prefer one of the Grand Tours over this. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 13:48, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Plus, the Tour de Langkawi is the most prestigious Asian bicycle race. This one isn't even sanctioned by the UCI. –Howard the Duck 13:58, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Low notability race, not part of the 2010 UCI World Ranking. Low notability participants, the winner Zahid Gulfam has no article. I watch cycling but haven't heard of the race before or any of the people at Tour de Pakistan#Winners. Those with articles are small stubs. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:02, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't on the 2009–2010 UCI Asia Tour either.[29] PrimeHunter (talk) 14:07, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose. There are far more significant cycling races than this. Modest Genius talk 14:09, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The total prize money is apparently $10,000 distributed among the top 6 finishers.[30] No wonder the Afghan riders can be the "star attraction". PrimeHunter (talk) 14:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Manny Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey

This will probably won't happen as of 19:12, 25 December 2009 (UTC) –Howard the Duck 19:12, 25 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing new and still unlikely for the forseeable future as of 17:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC). Grsz11 17:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey at Cowboys Stadium. Dunno if this'll be ITN material. –Howard the Duck 07:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I doubt it. Anyway, I withdraw my nomination. --BorgQueen (talk) 11:41, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It'll be massive by Clottey wins. –Howard the Duck 12:41, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, Pacquiao will be 100% winner. This is saying from his coach Freddie Roach. - Gabby 21:32, 24 January 2010 (PST)
If anyone wants to pursue this, it's at Manny Pacquiao vs. Joshua Clottey. –Howard the Duck 15:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Only a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight is notable enough to be posted on ITN, imo. SpencerT♦Nominate! 03:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose while I'm not sure I'd be supporting the Pacquiao-Mayweather bout, the fight that actually happened was nothing special, either in matchup or result. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 08:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The Manny Pacquiao article had a staggering amount of views: ~117.4k. The most comparable ITN story, the 2010 Winter Paralympics only had ~25.9k. –Howard the Duck 13:36, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 12

ITN candidates for March 12

Siberian tiger

Siberian tiger
To quote one of your own references: 'Siberian tigers are one of the world's rarest species, with an estimated 300 left in the wild. Fifty of these are thought to be in China, but a further 5,000 are held captive on farms and wildlife parks across the country.' Modest Geniustalk 23:24, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Still quite rare. --candlewicke 23:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Candlewicke, are you thinking of updating Siberian tiger, or starting a new article? Bradjamesbrown (talk) 00:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A short update would surely do unless some evidence of a greater outcry emerges. --candlewicke 02:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The 11 tigers who died were in captivity. There are several hundred Siberian tigers in captivity in China alone. --Nosedown (talk) 01:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Israel

Has had all sorts of happenings all week but I can't remember the last time this topic was on ITN. Today alone the first missiles in more than a month have been sent into Gaza, the UN has commented and Israel has now sealed off the West Bank—"Israel has sealed off the West Bank ahead of major holidays in the past, but only rarely on other occasions". That and the announcements of thousands of new homes. Surely there is something in all of this for ITN? I don't know what the appropriate article is for all of these events. --candlewicke 20:44, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there has been anything truly newsworthy in months. I don't see why we should add something just because Israel hasn't been on itn in awhile, either. --PlasmaTwa2 20:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is nothing here truly newsworthy? --candlewicke 21:23, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think the condemnation from the U.S. administration is noteworthy; although it doesn't reflect a change in U.S. policy, the tenor of the comments hasn't been seen in a long time. That said, I don't know if it's an ITN-worthy entry. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure the US has condemned Israel in the past for settlements so this is nothing new. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.35.252.20 (talk) 02:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, to quote the non-American BBC front page, this is "a rare and sharp rebuke from Washington". So if it has happened before it hasn't happened very often. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton even telephoned Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and called the behaviour of Israel "deeply negative" for US-Israeli relations. That and the comments from the United Nations and various other nations, i.e. Lebanon suggests this is hard to dismiss as "nothing new". --candlewicke 02:48, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, come off it. The US, the UN and others have been playing the condemnation card for decades. Israel knows the US will do this. The US knows Israel will ignore it. Business as usual continues regardless. The Palestinians will continue armed resistance and the Israelis will continue to squeeze the Palestinians. Nothing new at all. Not news. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.35.252.20 (talk) 03:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What would have to happen to be considered "news"? Since they all seem to have done just about everything to one another already? --candlewicke 03:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I have to agree, this is business as usual. The conflict rumbles on, but I see no more reason to give it an ITN entry than, say, the latest developments in the Somali Civil War. If some major new event happens, sure, but at the moment the entry would be 'yet more condemnation of Israel, which proceeds to ignores it like every other time'. Modest Geniustalk 15:18, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that this is so much more "in the news" than the "latest developments in the Somali Civil War" makes it a better ITN candidate than the latter. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:00, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lahore attacks - 45 dead

- Nom - 12 March 2010 Lahore bombings - TouLouse (talk) 14:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

if you (or someone) expand it...--DAI (Δ) 15:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Same reason given by me as is in Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#ITN candidates for March 8. --GPPande 15:35, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
'Weak support if a decent article comes of it but strong oppose for the minute because it's a half sentence sub-sub-stub. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 15:38, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've had a go at expanding the article, but I'm sure someone with a knowledge of these things will do a better job. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 16:21, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support And expand the article. FixmanPraise me 16:30, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support: 45 dead is quite big, even for the current situation in Pakistan. ≈ Chamaltalk¤ 17:16, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support if it is combined with the first one. --candlewicke 17:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, and post both in a single blurb. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 19:48, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, would there be any support for merging these two articles? Bradjamesbrown (talk) 20:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - in one article called - March 2010 Lahore bombings - TouLouse (talk) 21:06, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Merge. Agree with Bradjamesbrown and TouLouse. - JuneGloom07Talk? 21:29, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We'll need an admin to merge the histories, and then someone to streamline the new article, but these appear to be very closely related attacks. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 21:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge the histories of what? What two articles are you talking about? Why do you assume people can read your minds? -- tariqabjotu 23:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I assume the discussion is regarding 8 March 2010 Lahore bombing and 12 March 2010 Lahore bombings to be history merged into March 2010 Lahore bombings which all sounds a bit complicated to me, but I'd support if you're up for it Tariq. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 23:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, Tariq. Although GPPande linked to the last discussion, I didn't notice no one had actually linked the 8 March article. HJ Mitchell is correct. My apologies. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 00:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is it possible to hist merge two articles that have been edited at the same time? Wikipedia:HISTMERGE#Parallel_versions seems to suggest that it all becomes too messy and that Template:Copied should be used instead. Merging histories is not something I know much about though - Dumelow (talk) 00:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. --candlewicke 03:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But someone might as well add today's attack now as well. --candlewicke 04:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ehh...Swat Valley isn't really anywhere near Lahore. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 05:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Last 5-7 blast were just firecrackers going off. First two were normal suicide bombing.--yousaf465' 09:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Over 72 killed in total. ~AH1(TCU) 22:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posted - Dumelow (talk) 12:39, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Winter Paralympics

The X Paralympic Winter Games competitions begin in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. (FOXBusiness) - Bib (talk) 19:00, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Article could use more paragraph prose. SpencerT♦Nominate! 03:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It could indeed, but I'll obviously support when there's a little more prose. A nice paragraph about the opening ceremony might suffice. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 15:40, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:ITNR. Modest Geniustalk 15:46, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How can you oppose because it's not on /R? The vast majority of events we post aren't. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 16:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
True, but this is an obvious 'multi-sport event' which was apparently not considered important enough. Personally, I don't think there's enough interest to justify posting this. Modest Genius talk 19:05, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. There is "a lingering controversy", "criticism" and the "world" is going to be there. "Vancouver offers an excellent opportunity to see how the final Games before London goes about changing 'the look' of an Olympic city into a Paralympic one". --candlewicke 16:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
support and add to ITNR. 2 stories for paralympics in every 4 years is really not a lot. considering its still a world event i fully support it. -- Ashish-g55 19:16, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Multiple sport event and also support Ashish's suggestion to add to ITNR. --GPPande 19:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Since the only objection is that it isn't on ITNR and there are calls for it be on ITNR I added it to ITNR so it is now on ITNR and therefore is an ITNR event. --candlewicke 19:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Internationally significant companion event to the Winter Olympics. However, as with the Olympics, wait until the Opening Ceremonies are complete. More importantly, we included the 2008 Summer Paralympics [32] --Smashvilletalk 19:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support posting after the opening ceremonies, and Candlewicke's adding to ITN/R. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 20:11, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb about the opening ceremonies. However, like the Commonwealth and PanAm Games, I don't think we need a blurb on the closing ceremonies when it comes. --PlasmaTwa2 20:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Plasma that we don't need the closing ceremony as well (I'd rather keep just that for the big two). We should probably put the Summer Paralympics on ITNR as well - Dumelow (talk) 00:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Concur completely with both remarks above me. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 01:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 01:14, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - what are we waiting for ? Hektor (talk) 13:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Added a few minutes ago. Can Youth Olympic Games be added to ITNR as well? -- Zanimum (talk) 15:34, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It seem I've been outvoted, which is fair enough. A few changes have been made to WP:ITNR, which suggest we will be posting the closing ceremony too. However, the discussion above does not appear to have reached this consensus. Do we need to amend ITNR, or did I miss something? Modest Geniustalk 17:02, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd actually support posting the opening ceremonies for Singapore, but oppose adding it to ITN/R at the moment until we see how big of a deal it really will be going into Innsbruck. (As to the Paralympics, I don't see a consensus here for also posting the closing ceremonies.) Bradjamesbrown (talk) 22:34, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 11

ITN candidates for March 11

African Footballer of the Year

I saw this on the BBC's front page, the award has its own article and involves an entire continent, a continent which doesn't feature on ITN sport very often. The winner is Didier Drogba and he has a great selection of images. --candlewicke 03:44, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, since we don't usually feature individuals in team sports (with the odd exception of MVP awards at the same time as a major team trophy). IIRC, we never include the FIFA World Player of the Year, and doing one for every continent would be silly. Plus, it's not on WP:ITNR which has seen a lot of attempts to balance the amount of football coverage on ITN. Modest Genius talk 15:43, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sweden–Turkey relations

Turkey has recalled its ambassador to Sweden and cancelled talks between the two nations next week in the latest twist in the row over the Armenian Genocide. Quote from Reuters: "Zergun Koruturk, Turkey's ambassador to Sweden, told Swedish television programme Aktuellt that the vote would have 'drastic effects' on bilateral relations which were unlikely to be overcome in a short time". I've updated this and it just needs support.
Suggest: Turkey recalls its ambassador to Sweden and cancels a bilateral summit after the Riksdag votes in favour of recognising the Armenian Genocide. --candlewicke 01:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I don't think Swedish-Turkish relations are that newsworthy. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Why? The Armenian Genocide is about as sensitive as you can get. --candlewicke 02:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but that's an issue in every Western country's dealings with Turkey. If my math is right, there are 37,056 potential bilateral country relationships in the world, and I don't think all of them are necessarily newsworthy unless they lead to war or something. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Quite a significant international development (definitely newsworthy), and the article contains a substantial update. -- Black Falcon (talk) 05:24, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. As Turkey seems to be coming to a head with the international community over the interpretation of the Armenian genocide (with Turkey being almost isolated in rejecting this term, I believe), this particular conflict is significant, and others may follow. I think we should present it. __meco (talk) 09:49, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. I was going to oppose, but the article is in good shape. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 09:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Has this had enough support yet? --candlewicke 16:53, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose : I don't think ambassador recall is ITN worthy. Every month one or the other country does so in the world. Lets add it to the article and that's all. --GPPande 17:00, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As stated above it has been said that there will be "drastic effects" which will not be overcome for a long time. --candlewicke 18:12, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Elections also happen every month. --candlewicke 18:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Recalling an ambassador pretty much means severing diplomatic ties with another country. The consequences of such an action will be faced by other countries as well, and can affect their relationships with the involved parties. Definitely not something that happens every month or so AFAIK, or this world would be in a pretty crappy state. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 17:12, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support this seems like a pretty big deal - especially as Turkey wants to be in the EU. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 17:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there enough support to post? --candlewicke 21:43, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Big news in Sweden. Aftonbladet describes it as a "diplomatic crisis". Several protests occurred in Turkey on Friday as well. Theleftorium 23:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I really don't think there are any major long-term implications of this. Sweden and Turkey do not share extensive strategic relations and Turkish leaders are engaging in political rhetoric. --Nosedown (talk) 00:48, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But next week's talks were cancelled? If this is not important why would Al Jazeera, BBC, CNN, Xinhua, The Times of India and so on, be interested in reporting about the protests? --candlewicke 03:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Meh... plenty of papers report New Jersey Nets games but those aren't important... –Howard the Duck 13:02, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand the comparison between an international political dispute about genocide and a basketball game. --candlewicke 19:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Genocide = important, events such as this = not. As far as I know Turks didn't have killing spree of Armenians lately. –Howard the Duck 00:17, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support I think this a major diplomatic development. --yousaf465' 09:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is that enough support yet? --candlewicke 19:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The dispute over the Armenian genocide is a long one and Turkey has always engaged in political rhetoric whenever any country has tried to express an opinion on it. Recently, a U.S. Congress panel passed a similar opinion on Turkey's role in the genocide, Turkey protested and ultimately things were put in the back seat. Also, the Sweden's government has strongly opposed the parliament vote. It seems things will be back to normal. As I said before, these things do happen in international diplomacy a lot and in this case, there will not be any major long-term implications. --Nosedown (talk) 21:43, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I think the point is that various national parliaments debate this topic quite regularly. Sweden's parliament is not the first to have passed such a motion, and it won't be the last. It is a sensitive topic on both sides, which is why tempers rise when it is debated, but it is hardly a defining feature of international relations. Physchim62 (talk) 00:39, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

President Sworn in

We had him on ITN when he was elected and we generally don't add the inaugurations. On the other hand, if there is a consensus to list the most resent earthquake aftershock, the two items can be combined in the blurb. --Tone 18:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Obama's inauguration was posted but Yanukovych's inauguration was recently nominated because it had a lot of international coverage and no one seemed interested. --candlewicke 18:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I say Post on Main Page. FixmanPraise me 04:21, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Election results are posted on ITN. Inaugurations are not posted. This inauguration is not politically significant as much as others we had in past. --GPPande 12:33, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos Slim

Carlos Slim
  • Carlos Slim (pictured) has knocked Bill Gates from the top of the Forbes list of the world's billionaires.
  • Deutsche Welle - "For the first time ever, the name at the top of the Forbes Magazine list of the world's richest people belongs to someone not from Europe, or the US, or an oil-rich Arab state, but to someone from the developing world".
  • Al Jazeera - "for the first time since 1994 that a non-US citizen has taken the spot".
  • The Sydney Morning Herald - "THE old order is under threat at the world's billionaires club".
  • Hindustan Times - "The list valued Slim's fortune at $53.5 billion, $500 million ahead of long-time list topper Bill Gates, the founder of Microsoft".
  • RTÉ - "Mr Slim's fortune rose by $18.5 billion last year to more than $53 billion".
  • Bild - "He is the first person from Mexico to become the world’s richest".
  • The Korea Herald - "Mexican telecom mogul Carlos Slim topped Bill Gates and Warren Buffett on Forbes list of richest people, with a net worth of $53.5 billion, wiping Americans from the spot for the first time since 1994".
  • Radio Netherlands Worldwide - "The annual Forbes rich list has ranked Mexican businessman Carlos Slim as the wealthiest person in the world, ousting Microsoft founder Bill Gates from top place".
  • The Hindu - "Mexican telecom tycoon Carlos Slim is the world’s richest person, jumping past Americans Bill Gates and Warren Buffett to become the first person from a developing nation to top the list".
  • Profiles: BBC, The Daily Telegraph, The Times.

End. --candlewicke 15:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose. These sorts of league tables are subject to exchange-rate fluctuations, without even mentioning the monetarization of assets. The U.S. dollar is weak, so Slim gets in at the top: on the other hand, neither Slim nor Gates or Buffet could get the equivalent in cash for the assets they own. Physchim62(talk) 16:00, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that's lots of references, you really don't have to put so much effort in the nom ;-) Weak oppose per above, there are simply too many parameters here and Forbes is just (although the most influential in this field) magazine. --Tone 16:03, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This nom has more than half as many references as the original Carlos Slim article. –Howard the Duck 17:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that. In summary, (1) he is the first Mexican, (2) it is the first time it is someone from the "developing world", (3) it is the first time in more than 15 years that s/he is not from the United States. The last two are extremely unlikely to happen every year (and the last one is nearly as old as the world wide web itself) so it is not necessarily an argument for it to be included on ITNR as an annual event if posted, while this is apparently the most influential list as mentioned above. --candlewicke 18:28, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per Candlewicke. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 19:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Although there are arguments to be made about the parameters used, I think it's significant that it's the first time that it's the first time in 15 years that it's a non American and more so because he's the first non-westerner to win it. However, if this is posted, can we find a way of not using "developing world" in the blurb? HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 19:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Given Mexico is in the OECD I suppose saying "developing world" isn't particularly accurate. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And suggesting that Mexico is not in the West is not particularly accurate either! Kevin McE (talk) 22:20, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly not, though the sources use the term. --candlewicke 20:25, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Technically people from the middle east aren't westerners either. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Regardless, this article needs an update beyond "Forbes says he's now #1." -- tariqabjotu 22:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved

Carlos Slim (pictured) becomes the first Mexican to top the Forbes rich list of wealthiest men billionaires. --candlewicke 23:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I see no reason not to post this one. It's a significant merit and it doesn't happen all the time, in fact it's always a very big news story when a new guy enters the throne. __meco (talk) 23:32, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
the list is for world's billionaires. should state it properly. terms like wealthy or rich will become controversial. -- Ashish-g55 00:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can you get any richer than a billionaire yet? Done. --candlewicke 01:41, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, weak oppose. Can't really form a strong opinion on this one, but it's a magazine's informed opinion, not an absolute fact. Not really sure "One insanely rich guy now said to be richer than another insanely rich guy" is really news. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 00:28, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The Forbes list is well-known enough to make it newsworthy, even if it's just an estimate. The fact that the richest man in the world is from the so-called Third World makes it interesting. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:01, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support - This is far better then last time we added Carlons Slim being the richest person in the world, where it didn't last long. I think the fact that we're having this same conversation again over 2.5 years later is a good indication that last time was a mistake Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 16#Richest person in the world. The advantage here is that the Forbes list tends to be the most notable list/source for this sort of thing. However we didn't have much luck with Warren Buffett and Forbes either Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/March 2008#Warren Buffett, who also didn't last long. However this has some additional details which perhaps help make it even more interesting and some may argue Buffett should have gone up earlier and stayed up Nil Einne (talk) 14:09, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support: This rankings are put up every year but changes in top orders happen rare. This is swap in top spot. --GPPande 15:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment isn't there enough support for this to go up? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 16:16, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This would solve the picture crisis which has erupted over at Talk:Main Page. --candlewicke 16:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Agree with Mwalcoff. ≈ Chamaltalk¤ 17:22, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posted - Dumelow (talk) 17:37, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

7.2 earthquake in Chile

- Nom - TouLouse (talk) 15:26, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support when the article is a bit better. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 16:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose it's an aftershock and has been scaled down. Page should be merged.--DAI (Δ) 17:47, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support. The 6.9 earthquake subjected 18,000 people to "extreme" or "violent" shaking, which did not occur on land during the main M8.8 earthquake. However no deaths seem to have been reported from the new tremors. ~AH1(TCU) 22:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian politics

(edit conflict) Should be an ITN/R, depending on what people think of the article. BEWARE: the current image is up for speedy deletion on Commons! Physchim62 (talk) 14:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support does the article need some more detail? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 14:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Major occurrence with international significance. Good lord, we need something. The template hasn't been updated since Monday. --Smashvilletalk 14:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We've just had an update (thank $deity), but another one wouldn't go amiss! Physchim62(talk) 15:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posting this one as well. The article is a bit short but I think the updates are sufficient. --Tone 15:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers, seems like $deity is listening to us today! The article still needs work, yes, but I think it gives enough background to fill out the ITN blurb. One of these cases where we hope that it will be improved by being on the Main Page! ;) Physchim62(talk) 15:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

March 10

ITN candidates for March 10

Death of Corey Haim

I wasn't going to but he is a prominent heartthrob and may surprise me by getting more support than the other death... --candlewicke 04:10, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Was never in the upper echelons of his profession. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 04:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It might at least encourage people to look at the one below. ;) --candlewicke 04:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There are many more prominent/popular actors out there. ... (talk) 13:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Muhammad Sayyid Tantawy

  • Egypt's top cleric dies suddenly from a heart attack while attending a prize-giving ceremony in Riyadh, i.e. another country.
  • Mimi Herald - "a controversial figure throughout the Islamic world".
  • The Guardian - "used his position as one of Islam's leading spiritual authorities to champion Islamic moderation worldwide".
  • Jerusalem Post - "a revered figure among many of the world's 1.4 billion Muslims. His rulings carried great influence".
  • Press Trust of India - "The Grand Imam breathed his last at Riyadh's King Khalid International Airport from where he was supposed to fly to Cairo".
  • Brunei FM - "During the visit, the Sheikh of Al-Azhar was scheduled to meet with Islamic scholars and intellectuals from several Islamic countries to review the current Islamic issues".
  • Africasia - "The White House on Wednesday offered its condolences following the death of Sunni Islam's top cleric, who last year hosted President Barack Obama's landmark speech to the Muslim world".
  • The New York Times - "For more than a quarter century Mr. Tantawi was at the nexus of government and religion in Egypt, the Arab world’s largest country, working with President Hosni Mubarak’s government to try to enforce a moderate interpretation of Islam".
  • Gulfnews - "Egypt's top cleric actively courted controversy with his liberal views".
  • Arabnews - "He carries a legacy of exemplary services to Islam".
  • CNN - "He played a similar role in the Sunni Muslim world as the pope does for Catholics, involving life issues".
  • Al Jazeera - "He also wrote a number of books, including a 15-volume, 7,000-page encyclopedia on the interpretation of Quran".
  • Catholic Culture - "Vatican's partner in dialogue".
Enough? --candlewicke 03:53, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is this story a prominent story on any of those websites? –Howard the Duck 03:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is on the front page of Arabnews. Though if it is prominence that is required... --candlewicke 04:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thinking about it those two stories do have a reason why they're both given prominence on those respective websites. –Howard the Duck 04:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support when the death section is expanded. --BorgQueen (talk) 04:26, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support; same condition as BorqQueen. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 05:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support - same condition + article needs to be expanded. There's about one section header for every three to four sentences... —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 05:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: I think death of head of Russian Church was posted on ITN sometime back. That justifies the death nomination of Egypt's Muhammad Sayyid Tantawy. More, the death was untimely and cleric has strong following in Egypt. Also the cleric was active (not retired) at time of death. --GPPande 08:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have done a bit of expansion, might be OK now - Dumelow (talk) 10:26, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good now. Please suggest a blurb. --Tone 11:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Egypt's foremost Islamic cleric Muhammad Sayyid Tantawy has died while at a prize giving ceremony in Saudi Arabia"? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 11:43, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support appears to have been a very influential figure in Islamic scholarship. The article is acceptable in its detail. Physchim62 (talk) 12:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. He has followers/influence outside Egypt too. ... (talk) 13:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why is any admin not posting this news? What are the admins waiting for? The deadline for ITN update has already past. --GPPande 14:55, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No need to panic if the ITN update is one hour or two late. Posting now. --Tone 14:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well for the longest time, it was a lack of an update. I checked earlier this morning (UTC) and it was still a one-liner. -- tariqabjotu 16:34, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

China selects first women astronauts

The names have not been released yet, but I think this is a very big moment.[34] --Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 22:01, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Would have been nice if we had this for International Women's Day, but hey! HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 22:02, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support this is important. Is there an article? -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. "'In the selection, we had almost the same requirements on women candidates as those for men, but the only difference was that they must be married, as we believe married women would be more physically and psychologically mature,' Zhang said." I am avoiding supporting that "almost the same...the only difference...". -SusanLesch (talk) 22:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support but... only when names are released and articles of astronauts are good enough to feature on ITN. --GPPande 08:07, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is this a topic about Chinese space program or gender equality? I'd prefer to wait until they actually go to space. --Tone 11:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Non-flyers tend to disappear into obscurity, lets wait until actual launch. ... (talk) 13:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose until first flight. Modest Genius talk 13:15, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now. I'd rather wait until at least one is selected for a mission, if not actual flight. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 19:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wait Until China shot her into space.--yousaf465' 04:25, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Do we have a specific article, or does Chinese women in space need to be updated and improved? ~AH1(TCU) 22:47, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 9

ITN candidates for March 9

Australia–Indonesia relations

The President has visited, agreements have been signed, the Australian/Indonesian relationship has been upgraded to the same level as the Australia/United States relationship (an annual meeting is now to take place). Click here --candlewicke 02:25, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: I don't see anything historic or significant in the meeting of two leaders. Seems just like any other meeting where two state heads meet, host lavish buffets, have big press conferences, make promises and future plans. Last time we posted Indian Prime Minister's visit to Saudi Arabia because it happened after decades and two countries signed an important extradition treaty. The treaty was important because it helps India plug holes for terrorists hiding in gulf countries. From the news page it seems Oz-Indonesian foreign ministers are still working on an extradition treaty. From the article it looks like a plan is drawn for state heads to meet every year along with other ministers. --GPPande 09:53, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Upgrading of bilateral relations seems significant to me. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 10:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also handed Australia's highest civilian honour, honorary companion of the Order of Australia and address a joint sitting of both houses of Parliament, the first by an Indonesian president. ... (talk) 12:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you want an Indon-Aussie news blurb, why not the death of Dulmatin by the police, who masterminded the 2002 Bali bombings? –Howard the Duck 13:25, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support but I suspect someone will say he's too short. --candlewicke 14:24, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
172 cm isn't that short? ;) --Stephen 00:00, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deaths of Mary Josephine Ray and Daisey Bailey

Now what are the chances of the two dying on the same day? It is apparently "very rare". And who gets the movie rights? --candlewicke 01:49, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support - TouLouse (talk) 05:17, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Oldest people in the world die all the time and that two died on the same day is just a coincidence. --Tone 08:23, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Not oldest people in the world anyway. ... (talk) 12:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It's just a coincidence. More of the last hook in a DYK set than an ITN item. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 17:23, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death of David Kimchi

BBC "He played a key role in the Iran–Contra affair, which rocked the administration of US President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s". "In 1982 he was Israel's chief delegate at the talks that ended the First Lebanon War". Fought in the 1947-1949 Arab-Israeli War, a former spymaster, a journalist in Paris, also active in Africa. Born in Britain. --candlewicke 00:50, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Died in 1235? Are you sure that's the right article? Modest Geniustalk 01:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Lol. I'd support just on the basis that he was a ghost from the 11th century who still played a role in a 20th century event. :) In all seriousness, an article would have to be created on him before I could consider supporting. HonouraryMix (talk) 01:23, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I copied and pasted his name from the BBC. There must be more than one. --candlewicke 01:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
His name is David Kimche, and I don't think there's an article on him. He doesn't strike me as extraordinarily notable, fascinating as his life may have been. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:46, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The guy certainly deserves an article, but I'll Oppose an ITN mention.--Johnsemlak (talk) 02:43, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Doesn't seem important enough to be mentioned in Iran–Contra affair. ... (talk) 12:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I can't AfD the article under WP:BLP1E as he is dead now, but that is about how I view his significance (unless further info comes to light). Physchim62(talk) 13:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There's WP:BIO1E (the same thing without the "L"). I've no opinion on the AfD, but I oppose this nom. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 13:45, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Which of the above is the one event? --candlewicke 14:28, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's a BIO1E, but we can't put a one-line substub on the main page. Oppose but I'll reconsider if.when the article is better. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Plants and insects

Something interesting I've just seen: The first use of a biocontrol agent in the European Union is approved — the Japanese insect Aphalara itadori will be released at trial sites in England to combat invasive Japanese knotweed. There is not much update to the knotweed article yet but there's material available. --Tone 22:36, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is it really the first ? What about myxamatosis for rabbits ? 86.149.232.250 (talk) 23:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Still it's a good story. Not many species are intentionally introduced to fight other species. --Tone 09:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. Interesting story, not something that happens that often and Japnanese knotweed is apparently quite a big problem. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 10:44, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support. This is not a "first" but it is a story which is likely to interest readers IMHO. Japanese knotweed needs to be improved before it can be posted: the current section reads like a glyphosate advert and is US-biased in its discussion. Physchim62 (talk) 13:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rajya Sabha passes women reservation bill

India's Rajya Sabha passes Women's Reservation Bill which proposes to secure 33% of all parliament and state legislature seats for women. WSJ CSM AP Financial Express BBC VOA NYT --Nosedown (talk) 22:25, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. This would have been nice for International Women's Day but it is still seems like an event that doesn't happen every day. --candlewicke 00:12, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Hasn't passed Lok Sabha yet, so it isn't law yet. A lot of bills pass one house and get blocked in the other YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 01:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On second thoughts, I agree with YellowMonkey's point. I guess we should wait till the bill is passed in the Lok Sabha. --Nosedown (talk) 01:47, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would strongly support this if it became law, but not until.--Johnsemlak (talk) 02:41, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Per YellowMonkey. ... (talk) 12:29, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose on the "gay marriage" precedent. This is not the first such law to be enacted (and it hasn't been enacted yet): to post it on ITN, I think we should require a really good article. Physchim62(talk) 13:50, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there an ITN policy that the article should be "really good"? If yes, then what does one mean by "really good"? --Nosedown (talk) 00:58, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Really good" as in high quality. The article should be relatively well-written, referenced, clear, and coherent. SpencerT♦Nominate! 03:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Devolution of policing and justice powers to Northern Ireland

Discussion moved to Future events
I think this is a pretty big event given the long history of the troubles in Northern Ireland. I would say if it were to go up, it's probably best to wait until the 12th April when power will actually be handed over, but I thought I'd put it out for discussion now --Daviessimo (talk) 21:38, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. I was considering nominating this earlier. George W. Bush has been involved and it's big news in the UK. I'd say it's notable enough, but I;d be inclined to wait til April when it comes into force. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 22:02, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support now or then. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:17, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Very major hurdle has been crossed in peace process. HonouraryMix (talk) 01:25, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose, as I have before. This is really just a domestic issue, with no international significance. It means that Northern Ireland has the same local political control over its police force as the rest of the UK, and also an administrative responsibility for its (separate) judicial system, as Scotland has. Not really earth-shattering unless you personally lived through the Troubles. Physchim62 (talk) 13:42, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as above. It has international significance in the same way that Israel-Palestine and Kashmir (among others) do. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 13:45, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'd like to remind people that all this chit-chat is meaningless if there's no article associated with this. -- tariqabjotu 08:29, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I presume the relevant article to be updated is Department of Justice (Northern Ireland). I'll move this discussion to future events as I think this will be better returning on April 12th --Daviessimo (talk) 08:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 8

ITN candidates for March 8

Pakistan blast

Support. It resulted in the collapse of the building. --candlewicke 22:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as above. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:20, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Working on an article: 8 March 2010 Lahore bombing Not in love with that name, though. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 23:29, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose , I don't this needs to be posted on ITN. It was office of Special Investigation Agency, was bombed after all the VIP( very important prisoners) have been transfered to another facility about 400 km to the south. --yousaf465' 08:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: I concur with Yousaf. Also, I thought there was a consensus that these types of attacks in Pakistan, Iraq & Afghanistan would only be considered for ITN if they had huge death tolls or they had some serious political intentions/events associated with them. I think this was another desperate attack from desperate organization as the Pak minister has said. --GPPande 09:00, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was under the impression that a bomb had exploded in "a building housing an anti-terrorist wing of the federal investigative agency" and that the building had collapsed. That (hopefully) explains why I supported. --candlewicke 15:07, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Andrée Peel

Oppose we did not post the death of the last Canadian veteran. I believe now, we should just wait for the last veteran period. --PlasmaTwa2 17:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not to mention, she is nowhere close to being the last WWII vet. There were plenty of heroic acts in that war. Why single out just one person? --Smashvilletalk 17:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Seems to be a somewhat significant figure in the resistance but the article isn't very well developed.--Johnsemlak (talk) 18:52, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fata lawmakers refuse body scanning in US, fly home

Another issue in Pak-USA ties. They are being hailed as hero here. :) --yousaf465' 04:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. "The lawmakers considered the scanning order an insult to the parliamentarians of a sovereign country and decided to call off their visit". Other lawmakers threatening to leave too. --candlewicke 12:51, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Important principles clashing in this issue. Body scanners could become a watershed issue in the conflict between civil rights/privacy intrusion vs. the "War on Terror". This incident certainly could trigger even louder opposition to these measures. __meco (talk) 12:57, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as above. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 13:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Has any article been updated yet? --BorgQueen (talk) 13:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what to do... Pakistan – United States relations has "multiple issues". --candlewicke 13:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • CommentEither create separate article for this tour or we can use the Millimeter wave scanner/ Security scan(this one has some issue not the previous one. I think Millimeter wave scanner is better, as this technology is being at U.S airports , or else is it this one Backscatter X-ray ?--yousaf465' 14:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Neutral until suitable article update. I think we should avoid speculating how significant this issue might become and concentrate on what is significant now.--Johnsemlak (talk) 15:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment , Which article should be updated ? Their action are being backed by oppositions MP, but official version is " Body scanning of people from a group is discriminatory and this issue has been raised in several meeting with US officials." --yousaf465' 16:57, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Here is one more link Pak lawmakers refuse body scan, cut short visit to US.--yousaf465' 17:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Here is a detailed analyses, Lawmakers’ tiff reveals complex US-Pakistan ties.--yousaf465' 09:49, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Again, we need an updated article. -- tariqabjotu 08:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please please somebody update atleast this article Pakistan – United States relations.--yousaf465' 04:23, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Turkey earthquake

  • Nom - at least 17 deaths after a 5.9 earthquake TouLouse (talk) 05:22, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Update - 41 death toll - TouLouse (talk) 08:30, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - the death toll has been increasing throughout the morning. --candlewicke 10:15, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. BBC is now reporting 51 dead. Physchim62(talk) 10:22, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've expanded this. Death toll still increasing. Villages destroyed. 20+ aftershocks. An earthquake in Turkey's Elâzığ Province kills more than 50 people and injures at least 100. --candlewicke 11:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support'. Not the biggest quake, even in recent weeks, but a high death toll and the article appears adequate. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 11:56, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posting. --Tone 12:00, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, it isn't showing up more than half an hour later and it isn't in the page history. --candlewicke 12:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and reposted because it's not in the history for me, either. Also, I changed the injuries to "at least 50" because it appears that all of the sources have lowered that total. --Smashvilletalk 14:34, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 7

ITN candidates for March 7

82nd Academy Awards

  • Hurt Locker wins 6 Academy Awards, including Best Picture.
This item is a no brainer. Just waiting for the announcement of Best Picture. There shouldn't be mention of any other award in the item. --PlasmaTwa2 02:18, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How about first female to win best director? Otherwise, The Hurt Locker it is with 6 oscars including best picture. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲτ¢ 04:59, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm all for it - I didn't know that there was the possibility of having the first female (or African-American) to win Best Director. I'm just not sure how to work it in. --PlasmaTwa2 05:04, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. First woman to win Best Director would be nice. -SusanLesch (talk) 05:20, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hosni Mubarak
How about:
Although BP is usually the big category, in this case director is IMO the bigger story, and anyone who clicks any of the links will quickly learn about the BP win anyways, if they somehow don't already know. Random89 06:22, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
...there's a picture, might need to be cropped though. Also, we could pipe Academy Awards to 82nd Academy Awards Random89 06:26, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Or how about:
PrimeHunter (talk) 06:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suppport. First woman to win best director makes a nice blurb for International Women's Day. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 08:41, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Posting. Indeed, a nice blurb for March 8 ;-) --Tone 08:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Great timing indeed. :-) --candlewicke 09:55, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Endurance Idahor

This happened in the middle of a football match and the game seems to have been ended as a result. (BBC) (The Times of India) (The New York Times) --candlewicke 20:06, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I want to support. - TouLouse (talk) 20:48, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Footballers dying on the pitch is a rare event. This seems a shocking event. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 20:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Per HJ. It is rare for footballers to die in the middle of a match and Idahor was only 25. - JuneGloom07Talk? 21:09, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Most of the article prose is about how he died. And I believe this is a sad story and certainly not an ITN-type story. --Tone 21:55, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, A really sad and rare incident. I think previously also a footballer died on field. My brother listens to this song again and again I don't know why, death on football field--yousaf465' 04:30, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The article is thin and one dimensional, not likely (given the event) to get expanded much. RxS (talk) 05:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think deaths during sporting events are more common than one might think. For example, high school soccer leads to 1.6 deaths per year in the U.S. (http://www.sportssafety.org/sports-injury-facts/). The question is whether this death occurred at a high enough level to be newsworthy and not just tragic. I can't claim to be an expert on African soccer, but judging from Google News it doesn't look like this has drawn too much attention except for a short Reuters article that's been picked up in a few publications. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 05:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My understanding from the article is he is a Nigerian Premier League footballer - "the highest level of domestic Nigerian football". He played for Sudanese club Al-Merreikh which seems to be an important club. If you were to take the view of English speaking countries having more importance (a view I don't necessarily agree with), English is the official language of Nigeria, a country with a population of more than 150 million, "the eighth most populous country in the world, and the most populous country in the world in which the majority of the population is 'black' [...] one of the fastest growing in the world [...] the hegemon in West Africa". Not a lot of that has to do with the nomination but it shows that Nigeria is not a small country, has significant importance internationally and a large population which this event will affect as no doubt it would in England if an important league or popular sport experienced the same. This seems to be forgotten sometimes. Is Google News the best way to judge this? --candlewicke 10:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This has nothing to do with Nigeria. I would not support if it happened in an European country either. A relevant comparison was Nodar Kumaritashvili - a top sport event (Olympics) and several consequences (criticism of security and improvements in this regard). --Tone 15:13, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This is not ITN calibre news. I think that for the death of an athlete during competition to qualify for placement there should be some amplifying circumstance making the event spectacular. __meco (talk) 10:20, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. As tragic as it is, athletes who meet WP:ATHLETE do actually die in competition on occasion. While certainly not a regular occurrence, to cite a previous example, we didn't post Alexei Cherepanov when he died in the middle of a KHL game, despite that being the premier hockey league in Russia. --Smashvilletalk 14:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I'm afraid that ultimately my objection is pretty much that the Nigerian Football League is not notable enough, while the English Premier League, for example, is. I suppose it's justifiable on the grounds that a death in the EPL would be reported world-wide and quite probably would have been seen live world-wide.--Johnsemlak (talk) 15:57, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose according to the relevant category, there are 18 players for whom we have articles who have died during matches in the last 10 years. If the profile of the player or the match in which he died were higher, then probably, but not in this instance. Kevin McE (talk) 01:22, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Australian weather

"Once-in-a-century storm hits Melbourne". Fish fell from the sky in another town. --candlewicke 19:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support pretty important - TouLouse (talk) 19:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support if with Icesave, the Iraq elections and the Nigerian clashes there aren't too many stories to add at once. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:45, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support assuming this is as big a deal as the media are making of it. Any sign of an update? HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 21:00, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there an article on weather in Australia or does it need to be a new one? --candlewicke 21:14, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tentative support, depends on the quality of the article. --Tone 21:55, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The article is at 2010 Melbourne thunderstorm --Stephen 00:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Images too. --candlewicke 00:55, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support with passion...check out how often this happens: Never...according to this has something this big happened in Melbourne. Ks0stm(TCG) 01:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now 2010 Victorian storms. When is this going to be posted? --candlewicke 11:57, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Lots of info to put into one blurb... Or just keep it as "A strong storm hits Melbourne"? When there's a good blurb, I am ready to post. --Tone 11:59, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A series of storms passing through Victoria leads to flash flooding in Melbourne. --candlewicke 12:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose...lot's of unreferenced claims about damage and disruption in the article. I'd change my mind if that link further up supported that it's never happened before. I can't find it...maybe I'm missing something. Big thunderstorm but in the end no serious injuries or fatalities and there doesn't seem to be any real serious structural damage. RxS (talk) 15:29, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This isn't big enough, no significant damage or casualties. __meco (talk) 16:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I move that this item be removed again. __meco (talk) 14:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How many died on the storm? –Howard the Duck 04:00, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
None it seems but "some major buildings were evacuated", "several major shopping centres" and Melbourne experienced a higher than average amount of rainfall for March. There were "hail-induced injuries of cuts and bruises", some competing horses suffered injuries, a casino was damaged and fireworks and music events were cancelled. --candlewicke 04:25, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It would've been enough for a news service, but not for ITN. –Howard the Duck 05:06, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Again, please remove this item from ITN. I can't believe the humongous lapse in judgment or attention by ITN regulars that lead to it being posted. It clearly isn't ITN worthy. The article itself has even been nominated for AfD. __meco (talk) 07:50, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support a re-post. The AfD has ended and the article kept, and significant weather events merit inclusion in ITN just as we included many winter storms this year, especially the Winter of 2009-2010 in Europe. ~AH1(TCU) 23:09, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nigerian clashes

  • Clashes between Christians and Muslims leaves more than 100 deaths. - [35] - TouLouse (talk) 19:35, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - that is more than enough people. --candlewicke 19:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support As above. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Do we have an article yet? HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 21:00, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I could update 2010 Jos riots. This seems to have happened nearby. --candlewicke 21:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
300 dead now and expected to rise. Hundreds of people are hacked to death by machetes in Nigeria. --candlewicke 21:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, and good work using an existing article! Bradjamesbrown (talk) 21:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Expanding an existing article is a good idea indeed but needs more prose - then this will be ready to post. Shouldn't we just say killed instead of hacked, do we need to go into such details? --Tone 21:55, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I also would suggest adding a subject, even if that means completely rewording the blurb. It sounds to me like some possessed machetes just went on a killing spree. -- tariqabjotu 22:04, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, although I would prefer "killed" to "hacked", too. And "ethnic clashes" to "clashes between Christians and Muslims". Ankimai (talk) 22:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there enough prose now? --candlewicke 22:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Capture of Adam Yahiye Gadahn

Gadahn was captured in Pakistan, briefly after another video came out in which he called on Muslims serving in the US armed forces to emulate the Army major charged with killing 13 people in Fort Hood. - TouLouse (talk) 19:18, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Berlin poker tournament robbery

  • Armed robbers have stormed a luxury hotel in central Berlin where a poker tournament was taking place [36] - TouLouse (talk) 16:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Had they gotten away with millions and millions of money and had the drama been A LOT more spectacular than what the story read on a Norwegian newspaper's site we could have carried this. I think for a heist to make it on ITN it must be perpetrated by spectacularly glorious bastards, something inspired by Robin Hood perhaps. __meco (talk) 17:03, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above. --Tone 21:55, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't even think a stand-alone article on this would survive the inevitable AfD, much less is the event worth putting up on ITN. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 22:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

British boy kidnapped in Pakistan

A major news at the moment which created the widespread media coverage of the abducted Sahil. --Saki talk 10:56, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose A not unusual kidnapping of a westernized child in the country of ancestry, possibly members of the family involved. Sadly, this is not a spectacular event. __meco (talk) 14:32, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, I agree with Meco. not very unusual thing.--yousaf465' 15:03, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This should probably be moved to Kidnapping of Sahil Saeed. Not even Madeleine McCann has her own article. --candlewicke 19:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 6

ITN candidates for March 6

Hosni Mubarak gallbladder surgery while on state trip to Germany

Hosni Mubarak

The following line caught my eye and I think it is important: "The decree temporarily handing power to the prime minister was unusual as the health of Mubarak, who has ruled Egypt since 1981 and who turns 82 this year, is usually a taboo subject in Egypt". A sudden change of ladder after a long time. --candlewicke 15:21, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, since this is almost certainly a very short-term temporary measure. Modest Genius talk 23:01, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose If memory serves, Bush made Cheney acting president of the U.S. twice for surgeries. Neither constitutes a change in head of state- or expectation that the temp. replacement will be making hard decisions; rather it is an emergency matter- so everyone knows who is in charge if everything goes to hell in a handbasket. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 23:15, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But surely being in charge since 1981 in a country where your health is usually a taboo subject isn't comparable to anything in the United States? --candlewicke 23:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're right; it was just the closest parallel I could think of without spending an hour trawling through the archives. If this had happend in Egypt, there's a good chance we'd never have heard of it. But we did, and the surgery was successful. Non-event, except it might loosen the taboo against speaking of Mubarak's health. (My point was more that since the shooting of Reagan, it's usual practice around the world to hand power off for the duration of surgery, to prevent anyone else being in Haig's position from 1981.) Bradjamesbrown (talk) 00:29, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The dude was going to get ill eventually, and that would have entailed handing over executive authority temporarily. Only if he suddenly kicks the bucket during the operation, or the illness keeps him away from his duties for the long-term (like the example recently with Nigeria), would I support. HonouraryMix (talk) 23:50, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeNot much happened ultimately.--Johnsemlak (talk) 03:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose To me it seems a funny suggestion. We could have featured if he had died in that operation, with him the dictatorship in Egypt. --yousaf465' 09:59, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

US accepts Pakistan as a declared nuclear state

--Saki talk 12:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, unless Pakistan becomes part of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty I don't think this is that notable. The article states that the action has been taken to alleviate the conspiracy theories that suggested the US was plotting to seize Pakistan's nuclear weapons. In other words it is simply a re-assurance that the US sees Pakistan as a safe nuclear state --Daviessimo (talk) 12:56, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Everybody knows Pakistan has nuclear weapons in their arsenal. It makes very little difference whether the US recognizes that fact or not, IMO. If Pakistan was declaring or it was confirmed that they have nuclear weapons for the first time, that would be a notable event, but not this. ≈ Chamaltalk¤ 13:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Chamal. That the U.S. is willing to officially acknowledge what everyone has known for a long while is not news. Pakistani confirmation? That'd be news. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 15:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose As said above, everyone already knew Pakistan has nuclear weapons. HonouraryMix (talk) 23:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as per above.--Johnsemlak (talk) 03:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OpposeAs our former ambassador Madheha Lodhi said, Pakistan is nuclear whether U.S recognize it or not. --yousaf465' 09:52, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Pentagon shooting

Oppose for now. This seems to me like an ordinary enough US shooting - gunman shoots two people and hurts them, gets shot dead himself. --candlewicke 15:01, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This doesn't seem like a very big story. I haven't checked on how the US media is covering it, but I'm discounting them if the international headlines don't follow suite. __meco (talk) 23:31, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Seems like a lone gunman, like other lone gunmen who commit crimes frequently. Only thing that makes this notable is the fact it took place at the Pentagon, but since he doesn't seem to be acting as a part of some grander scheme, I don't think it notable enough for the front page. HonouraryMix (talk) 23:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. "It's 9/11 all over again", "the sky is falling", "it's all a conspiracy against the US" etc etc and Elvis will walk among us again. Not. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 02:47, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Lone gunman incidents occur too frequently for something like this to be posted. SpencerT♦Nominate! 04:08, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Late Oppose. Not very notable, bi-polar, on drugs etc. + Too much 'dubious' text creeping in (not to mention wiki-lawyering!-and I wrote most of the early version of the article! Still I oppose!) --220.101.28.25 (talk) 21:30, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Icesave referendum

The Icelanders are having a referendum on whether to pay back billions of pounds of compensation to the Netherlands and UK after the collapse of the Icesave scheme last year. Ultimately it is a referendum on one payment plan and a 'no' vote means back to the drawing board (something that they have started already), but how often do the citizens of a country vote on something like this --Daviessimo (talk) 09:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From FE:"Iceland will hold a referendum to approve or reject the repayment of a €3.8 billion loan from the governments of the UK and the Netherlands. Iceland borrowed the money to pay back savers who had lost their money when banks collapsed in the 2008–2012 Icelandic financial crisis. Article for the referendum is at Icelandic debt repayment referendum, 2010 - Dumelow (talk) 12:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)"[reply]
Support once the result is known. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 12:58, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support result. Modest Genius talk 16:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support As with the other comments, once the result is known. Seems like it'll be rejected. RxS (talk) 16:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Early results suggest that the turnout has been low but the vote has been an overwhelming rejection of the parliamentary bill. Physchim62(talk) 22:44, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Opinion polls are pointing towards 98% opposed. That's a BIG 'no'. Modest Genius talk 23:03, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Referendum is likely to have quite a big impact on Iceland's financial situation (well, at least I imagine a country's population basically saying it won't pay back debts will have an impact). HonouraryMix (talk) 23:55, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, 98.5% said "no"[1]. - Talk to you later, Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 02:38, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support--Johnsemlak (talk) 03:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support WHEN results table is updated. SpencerT♦Nominate! 04:09, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've added the preliminary results from the BBC to the table. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 11:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Post this whenever necessary preparations are done. __meco (talk) 12:24, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We're still awaiting final results, all I can find are 1/3 of votes. Modest Genius talk 15:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment 98% of the vote has now been counted - http://news.malaysia.msn.com/business/article.aspx?cp-documentid=3928119 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eraserhead1 (talkcontribs) 20:33, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment All the results are now in, and the article has been updated (source). -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:50, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Would someone be so generous as to propose a blurb? Also, it'd be better if the referendum article didn't sound like the vote still hasn't happened yet; there's a lot of future tense in the article. -- tariqabjotu 22:15, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What about "Icelanders have rejected a referendum proposal with a 93% majority to repay Britain and the Netherlands to cover the collapse of the Icesave bank?" -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
PS the article's tense has been updated. I think I've got everything. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:40, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dinosaur Extinction

A panel of experts have strongly endorsed the idea that the K-T Extinction that wiped out the dinosaurs was the result of an asteroid impact. The relevant article appears to have been updated (Cretaceous–Tertiary_extinction_event#Impact event) and is FA class --Daviessimo (talk) 14:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This actually looks pretty solid. I haven't read the Science article yet, but it seems good to me. Certain to be of interest to our readers. Support. Modest Genius talk 16:19, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Great set of articles, Support RxS (talk) 16:45, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as its interesting - plus another article needs adding to ITN now.-- Eraserhead1 <talk> 19:43, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This is a natural: interesting news, good WP article. GreenGourd (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I don't want to get anything wrong, so will someone who is more knowledgeable about this suggest a blurb? —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 21:23, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Posted Sorry, I already added one. It's a fairly long blurb, but I felt like it included all of the elements and nothing else. I feel it's important to say who confirmed this -- "panel of 41 scientists" -- and, to add importance to this panel, from where -- "from the ... Lunar and Planetary Science Conference". It might need to be said that this conference is not a one-time thing, so I added "this year's ... conference". Then mentioning the name of the extinction event -- "K-T extinction event" -- and of course what they believe it was caused by -- "an asteroid impact". The BBC article on this issue says they concluded it was either a comet or an asteroid, but it seems most others just say "asteroid". I'm not sure if they're just being lazy, but I went with asteroid. I suppose we could omit the part about the dinosaurs -- people can click on the K-T extinction event article -- but I feel like having that instant recognition of the event is better. If anything we can just say that the panel confirmed that "the extinction event that killed the dinosaurs was caused by...", but that really isn't much shorter. There are some artist's impressions of the asteroid impact if we get desperate, but I don't think people need an illustration of what an asteroid hitting the Earth might look like, so I think the current picture is better. -- tariqabjotu 21:44, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I was going to post it after someone suggested a blurb, so no problem at all. I like the blurb; it has to be long so that (a) all the relevant information is there and (b) there is enough context for readers. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 21:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 5

ITN candidates for March 5

US/Turkey relations

The effect of the vote might take some time, but apparently Turkey has recalled its ambassador, which seems to me like major news given the major relationship between the two countries. --PlasmaTwa2 23:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to this Obama plans to block the bill. If that happens this will likely blow over, but if not... well then we'll have to wait and see --Daviessimo (talk) 09:19, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fiji

"Fiji jails eight over plot to kill Bainimarama". --candlewicke 20:52, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well? Any article suggestion or support? --candlewicke 16:01, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm leaning toward oppose on this one...there's many plots to kill Obama, for example, resulting in jailings that went on ITN. If there's major protests, or if Bainimarama was killed, that's obviously a different story. SpencerT♦Nominate! 04:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

British soldier who went AWOL is demoted and jailed

The article Joe Glenton could be created if there is support. "a cause celebre for the anti-war movement". Took part in an anti-war protest. Protesters supported him in court and outside his army base. "He was absent for 737 days before handing himself in". Imprisonment is reported by CNN and case was covered by euronews last year so not just a small British news story from today. His mother is "extremely angry" and is going to annoy the Ministry of Defence in future too. Interesting change of topic from all the recent death. --candlewicke 18:46, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, it falls under WP:BLP1EPhyschim62(talk) 19:06, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)Eh... strikes me as a WP:BLP1E if a stand-alone article was started. Still, Oppose even if in another article- one man's going AWOL and getting thrown in jail isn't significant enough for ITN. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 19:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Very well. Seemed a prominent enough campaigner and "one of the first serving soldiers to attend an anti-war demonstration since Afghanistan was invaded in 2001" doesn't strike me as an ordinary individual. --candlewicke 19:37, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Interesting as it is, it's not exactly earth-shattering news, nor likely to have wide appeal. Modest Genius talk 16:21, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Samburu National Reserve

Interesting, but not quite notable enough. SpencerT♦Nominate! 04:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 4

ITN candidates for March 4

Togolese presidential election, 2010

The Togolese presidential election, 2010 will be held to elect a president - Dumelow (talk) 12:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(BBC) Both current president Faure Gnassingbé and opposition leader Jean-Pierre Fabre have claimed victory. EU observers have raised concerns over electoral fraud. Provisional results will be out later today but final results will likely be delayed by the allegations - Dumelow (talk) 10:08, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, as per ITNR. The article looks good, though with both candidates claiming victory, we should probably hold off a bit.--Johnsemlak (talk) 03:46, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The results are in with Gnassingbé winning a re-election. The opposition has disputed the results but ECOWAS says it is pleased with the running of the election - Dumelow (talk) 16:09, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ships stuck in Baltic Sea

BBC. 1000s of passengers are stuck in middle of baltic sea due to ice. interesting since u dont normally hear passenger ships stuck like that. -- Ashish-g55 01:08, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reuters: Dramatic drop in Chile death toll

How do you lose 500 people!? Something very odd here, either they're hiding something or they've made a gigantic error... --candlewicke 23:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to the BBC, the figure of 279 is the number of identified bodies, while 802 is the number "confirmed to have died" (such as the bus full of pensioners swept out to sea, I presume). Physchim62 (talk) 08:13, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Vladislav Ardzinba

  • The first President of Abkhazia dies at age 64 - TouLouse (talk) 20:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --candlewicke 21:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Even though Abkhazia is not an officially recognised country it has been the source of considerable tension in the Caucasus region. I would thus suggest that the death of one its most prominent politicians is an important event --Daviessimo (talk) 21:44, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. His presidential term ended in 2005, and for the last two years he was in extremely poor health. Former presidents don't get an automatic ticket onto ITN. Physchim62(talk) 22:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, there seems a fair amount of support for this one, I'll strike the oppose. Physchim62 (talk) 09:46, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Does that exclude Bill Clinton? His heart has certainly not been too steady over the last decade at all. --candlewicke 23:07, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(ec)Without wanting to turn this into another one of those discussions, how can you justify those criteria, when we have listed other former politicians who were not in office at the time of death and whose deaths were not unexpected (Alexander Haig springs to mind). It seems that when it comes to deaths on ITN, there is a real hit and miss approach to maintaining continuity in the criteria that are used to judge cases. --Daviessimo (talk) 23:09, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if a president dies in office, it's ITN/R. Ardzinba didn't die in office, nor did he die tragically or unexpectedly. So we have to see if he was particularly notable as a politician, and I don't think he was. Physchim62 (talk) 23:28, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The death of a president, current or former, is hardly an everyday occurrence. HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 23:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support' Seems like he started this de facto indept state by raising an army and fighting the Georgians. Notable YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:36, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support In some ways, the reason there is an Abkhazia. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 01:01, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Updated.
Suggest: Vladislav Ardzinba, (pictured) the first President of the Republic of Abkhazia, dies in a Moscow clinic at the age of 64. --candlewicke 03:32, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Important person in history of trouble-torn former Soviet region. His work of forming an army and program of Indigenization can be seen as major historical change for break away region. --GPPande 08:18, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is this going to be posted soon or is anything else required? --candlewicke 14:55, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Looks OK to me. I'd be wary about posting the pic though. It looks like an official photo (as opposed to a personal one) and the commons user has received several copyright warnings - Dumelow (talk) 15:06, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted, without the picture, which is an obvious copyright violation. -- tariqabjotu 15:28, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Abkhazia 10 apsar Ag 2008 Ardzinba b.jpg
    • Perhaps we could use this image instead. --BorgQueen (talk) 18:15, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Perhaps. --candlewicke 20:47, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • I would say "don't be silly", but it's too late for some precocious posters! The engraving on the coin is subject to copyright, just like the Australian Aboriginal flag (even more so, in fact, given the obvious artistic input into the engraving on the coin). The image is in violation of the copyright of the engraver, and should be removed. Physchim62(talk) 21:22, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've put a comment on the WT:ITN, thinking that that's a place to raise an issue and raise it quickly. Anyway to put it short there you can find a critique on the choice of "partially recognised" syntagma because it is biased, IMO. Best, --Biblbroks's talk 00:20, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Asilisaurus

The discovery of this little fella apparently means that dinosaurs existed on earth a little bit earlier than first thought (well 10 million years, which isn't that long). More information is available here --Daviessimo (talk) 17:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. It's interesting and it's not bad news. The article could use a little expansion of the information is available, though. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 01:19, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I thought the BBC wasn't very reliable for science... --candlewicke 03:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Pratapgarh stampede

  • Support: Very serious stampede and administration is under attack for negligence in not preparing for crowd management. Over 10000 devotees had come to temple. --GPPande 11:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --candlewicke 13:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per GP Pande. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 13:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
article kinda needs to be a lot better though. its one line right now -- Ashish-g55 14:18, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded. Suggest: More than 60 people are killed during a stampede at a temple in Pratapgarh district, Uttar Pradesh. --candlewicke 15:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Needs a copy-edit... I'll do what I can. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 16:09, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted, but I used "Kunda" instead of "Pratapgarh district" as the town where the stampede occurred has a name. You may want to change the name of the article to reflect that. -- tariqabjotu 16:10, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ITN today looks so sad. stampede, bombing, landslide, storm and earthquake. we just need some disease outbreak and we got a full house :) -- Ashish-g55 18:53, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Or the death of a President which has just arrived above... :-O --candlewicke 21:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 3

ITN candidates for March 3

1st direct flight to Bangalore launched

This is the "first not-stop flight from Chengdu to India, and is also the first flight from China to India's "Silicon Valley" Bangalore [...] According to marketing staff of Air China, the route is likely to attract passengers from Southeast Asia as the Bangalore-Japan and the Bangalore-South Korea routes have not yet been opened". --candlewicke 17:48, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Cathay Pacific Flight 6710 already runs 4-days a week from Hong Kong, PRC to Bangalore. Another connection from the PRC to an Indian city just isn't all that notable. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 21:27, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as Hong Kong isn't really in mainland China, if you fly from Hong Kong to Beijing you go through the International lane. So if this is the first flight from mainland China to India it is notable. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:18, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I've changed my mind as according to that article there appear to have been other flights from China to India so its not notable. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 22:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose.--Saki talk 04:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Keith Alexander

I've never heard of him before now but was watching the video from the link I found on the BBC's home page and it said he was "the first black manager in Britain to get a permanent appointment". The death seems very sudden and unexpected (he was managing his team on the very night of his death) and just collapsed when he went home hours later. He was 53 so not an old man. I've never heard of a sports manager just dying while in their job (it must've happened but I'm not sure if its very common at all). USA Today (international coverage?) says he was "one of the few black managers in English football" as well. --candlewicke 15:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and USA Today also says "The Football Association announced that England's players will wear black armbands as a mark of respect in Wednesday's friendly against Egypt at Wembley Stadium" if that is any help at all. --candlewicke 16:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - TouLouse (talk) 16:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Thought it over and noticed that he was a coach for fourth-tier English football teams. That's not all that notable. Some of the elements seem itn-worthy, and if he was a high-level coach I could see myself supporting. WizardmanOperation Big Bear 17:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Not that notable. If he were the first to manage a premiership team then maybe.--Johnsemlak (talk) 17:53, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Combine with death of Michael Foot Proposed: "Two British individuals, unheard of outside of Britain, die." Nutmegger (talk) 21:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Was never at the height of his profession. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 21:30, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose 4th flight team. Ranked > 60 YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 23:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You know, that kind of shows the jingoism abound on ITN. Half the people who die and get on ITN are only notable nationally. I bet that if the Queen were to die right now some people would still oppose her getting on to the main page. Sceptre(talk) 06:19, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Her Majesty-long may she reign- is head of state of sixteen countries. Comparing her to a mid-level football manager isn't anywhere near to a fair analogy. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 06:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, God save Her Majesty, long may She reign. Second, I oppose posting this death because the gentleman's death, while tragic, has not had anything like the effect I'd like to see for ITN. A better comparison than Her Majesty might be Sir Alex Ferguson of whom I'm sure everybody has heard whether they like football or not and, unfortunately, it seems Fergy is miles above this gent in terms of notability and, for a sports coach, I'd say that would be my interpretation of "very important figure in their field of expertise". Now, it's half past 6 in the morning and I need sleep! HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 06:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It was more directed at the tone of Nutmegger's proposed hook. It's actually really offensive: I mean, when I heard about it last week, I thought "who the fuck is Alexander Haig?" Sceptre (talk) 07:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Nutmegger's comment was uncalled-for. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 21:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death of Michael Foot

    • I'm invoking Ted Kennedy, and taking my leave. Sceptre (talk) 12:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Oppose: 96 is ripe age. Article updated with just one single line about his death announcement. --GPPande 13:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Being a Labour member, I'm an admirer of Foot, even if he was too left-wing for my beliefs sometimes. Having said all this, I have to take a step back and see that, although he was a big figure in British politics in the late 70s and early 80s, he was still only a party leader who didn't win power. Considering his lack of high position, and the fact his death is not unexpected considering he's 96, I have to oppose. HonouraryMix (talk) 13:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I don't think age can really be used as a criterion against inclusion in this case because we have in the past set a precedent of listing politicians deaths, irrelevant of age. Two recent examples are Jyoti Basu (95 yrs old) and Alexander Haig (85 yrs old). --Daviessimo (talk) 13:53, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Both the leaders, you mentioned, had left profound impact on their country. More, Jyoti Basu's more than 2 decades of continuous communist rule (democratically elected) cannot be matched anywhere else in the world. --GPPande 14:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I don't think that factoid is as notable as one might think. There are or have been democratically elected communist politicians in post-Soviet Russia, many quite long-serving.--Johnsemlak (talk) 18:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. They were judged not on age, but on other merits. I am simply saying this should be extended to other deaths. Simply stating 'oh he's 96, so this death isn't notable' cannot be seen as a valid argument when in other instances age is overlooked. Irrelevant of age, any death should be judged primarily on a person's contribution to their field. I would personally question whether this death is notable enough, because the highest position he has held was leader of the opposition, but I would certainly never take a look at a persons age and use that as my argument --Daviessimo (talk) 14:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Since his achievements seem to have been relatively little for someone in his field I checked if this death had yet had any international significance. Having just checked Google News for coverage of this outside the UK I could only find RTÉ, forth, CNBC. I did this because one might expect any significant UK political death to get a lot of coverage in at least the US or Commonwealth but perhaps it is too early to tell at the moment. Neutral for now until I or someone else can find something to give me a reason to support. --candlewicke 15:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. On the age matter, obviously dying of old age at 96 is enough to solely exclude him. It's really more important that he's out of politics. (by comparison, Ted Kennedy and Josi Basu were active politically at their times of death.) Again, it's not a sole reason to reject him, but I think it's a valid argument against posting this death, unless the deceased had an extremely notable career. I don't think this is the case.--Johnsemlak (talk) 18:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Foot has gone international now. Long obituaries in The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Hindu. See also: Malaysia Sun discuesses his importance to India, more on that in The Telegraph (Kolkata) and MyNews.in, more international mentions in the Irish Independent, The Irish Times and ABC News, Montreal Gazette, The Sydney Morning Herald. The Wall Street Journal seems to think he is "Notable & Quotable". Foot also apparently owed "a great debt" to Jews, according to The Jewish Chronicle. --candlewicke 11:07, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support now for these reasons. --candlewicke 11:08, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per Candlewicke. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 13:02, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, since he never got beyond Leader of the Opposition. Incidentally, I think he's equally worth posting with Ted Kennedy, but opposed both. Modest Geniustalk 14:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Willing to go along with whatever our UK people say. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 21:30, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Iraq suicide attack in Baqubah

Support. "The bomber followed crowds of the wounded into the hospital and detonated himself in an effort to get the police chief as well", according to the description of the third bomb on Al Jazeera. --candlewicke 15:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support something is due to be posted too, and this seems fairly serious. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 23:11, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support if and only if that article expands. Working on it. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 00:16, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Needs more work, but I've done what I can. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 02:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Article actually looks pretty decent thanks largely to Bradjamesbrown's efforts. It doesn't have to be FA standards to go up on ITN and it'll probably attract more attention and further development while it's up. Besides, we haven't had an update in 34 hours. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 02:15, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posted. Update long overdue and article looks fine - Dumelow (talk) 08:12, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ukraine

  • Ukraine's parliament has passed a motion of no-confidence in Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko's government. [40] Needs update but this is a big story. --Tone 13:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • From what little I've read, it looks like this means Yulia will have to resign. If she does resign, strong support. HonouraryMix (talk) 18:11, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Depends. If she resigns, do they have a new election? If so, we should wait for that. If not, this could be a story. In any case, 'looks like' she will resign isn't enough. Modest Geniustalk 18:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmation. She has resigned, and from my understanding of Ukrainian politics a new election isn't held when the incumbent Prime Minister goes. Just up to a coalition of parties to come together in support of a new candidate, I think. With these developments, I reiterate my support. HonouraryMix (talk) 11:41, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. My feeling on this is that it is still the fallout from the presidential election. Tymoshenko has been forced out as Prime Minister because she lost the presidential election, that's it. Either a new Prime Minister will be found who can gain the confidence of parliament, or there will be legislative elections: in either case, we will have an ITN story when it happens. I don't think the fall of a government for what are essentially internal political reasons is sufficient for ITN: when we post falls of governments, it is usually because the reason behind the fall has a certain international impact. For examples, see the recent fall of the Dutch government over "Afghanistan" or the fall of the Icelandic government this time last year over the spectacular effects of the global financial crisis in that country. Physchim62(talk) 12:04, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good points. Try again when a successor is appointed? Modest Genius talk 16:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 2

ITN candidates for March 2

Saboteur Oil Spill in Italy's longest river

Environmental campaigners have warned of impending disaster after saboteurs attacked a disused refinery, resulting in a massive oil slick on Italy's Po River. Environmental disaster feared as oil slick flows down Italy's longest river, Officials Warn of Ecological Disaster Caused by Oil Spill in Italy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.188.17 (talk) 18:05, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Intential oil spill in a major populated river region, but the information and citations in the relavent section of the article needs to be expanded. ~AH1(TCU) 03:27, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 03:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reading the Telegraph article it seems the government has not yet declared a state of emergency. Damage to human life is ruled out and as of now damage to plant life/birds seems not big, even though all this is expected to go up (I hope it doesn't go up). I think we should wait and watch this news before rushing to post it. Also, environmental activists had warned of such disaster considering that the refinery was abandoned. --GPPande 07:31, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fireworks explosion kills 21, injures 48

Twenty-one people, including five children, were killed and 48 were injured in an explosion triggered by a fireworks display in a village in Guangdong province, China. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/2010-03/01/content_9524133.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.188.17 (talk) 17:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Any sign of an article? HJ Mitchell Penny for your thoughts? 17:52, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I'm pretty sure that fatal accidents involving fireworks are pretty common in China during holidays and festivals, but this appears to be somewhat more significant as it killed almost twice the number of people than a week before. ~AH1(TCU) 03:26, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support when there is an article per AH1 saying this is an unusual number of deaths. --candlewicke 15:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nord Stream

GDF Suez joins the Nord Stream gas pipeline taking a 9% stake in the project.[41] Beagel (talk) 17:49, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'm missing something very obvious, but I'm not seeing this memorandum of understanding as ITN worthy- the pipeline was going to be built with or without this investment. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 15:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Uganda landslide

Initial estimates places death toll between 30 and 45, with a least 100 missing --Daviessimo (talk) 12:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Significant death toll and nicely updated article. --GPPande 12:55, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've created the above article. Death toll now stands at 50 --Daviessimo (talk) 13:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Article is good quality and seems to be quite a high death toll. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 13:27, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have expanded the article further. Lets post. --GPPande 14:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I go with that. Support. Physchim62(talk) 14:57, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Concur. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 15:07, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted by Tariqabjotu. HJ MitchellPenny for your thoughts? 16:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Uh, yeah, I probably should have indicated that, but I got sidetracked trying to crop a picture of the Olympic Closing Ceremony so that people weren't wondering WTF is that? By the time I finished that -- and I didn't really -- I had to go. -- tariqabjotu 17:20, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


March 1

ITN candidates for March 1

Georgia–Russian border re-opened

Re-opened for the first time in four years. (Al Jazeera) (Press TV) (Toronto Sun) (Xinhua) --candlewicke 20:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I modified the header to the Georgia-Russia relations article, which I think is the appropriate target. It's hard for me to see the international significance of this. The al-Jazeera article says this portends no thaw in relations between the two countries. It's international, of course, but is it significant?--Chaser (talk) 05:04, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

British mission lost hundreds of Pakistani passports

Front view of a Pakistani passport

Here is the links British mission lost hundreds of Pakistani passports, I think this is the single largest loss of Passports since many years.--yousaf465' 05:50, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support. --candlewicke 20:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Somebody please create a section/article.--yousaf465' 08:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly support; an article could be started. --Sakitalk 08:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Somebody appears to have done that. Suggest: 118 Pakistani passports (pictured) are lost from the British High Commission in Islamabad. --candlewicke 15:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Several points about this nomination. First, this didn't happen recently. They lost the passports at some point (last year apparently), but they only acknowledged this recently. Next, I see news stories indicating this announcement goes as far back as February 26. This was nominated on March 1, and now it's March 3. The news story is a bit stale. Next, I don't know why the Pakistani passport article contains this information. That some embassy/high commission lost passports seems completely irrelevant to the topic of Pakistani passports. Further, the update is poor, not just in length, but in grammar. That certainly needs to be fixed. Lastly, this topic seems very, very poorly covered in the news. I literally find just three articles on Google News about this topic. Or is that because this isn't news? As I said, it sounds like they lost these passports awhile ago. -- tariqabjotu 17:30, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not only three, but many newspapers covered this story (sources on article page). I agree that this did not happened recently however media still reporting on this incident as missing passport still counting. I think it should be on the main page now. Do not leave it behind to become a stale news. --Sakitalk 05:29, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is anyone else still interested in this? --candlewicke 21:21, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Micheál Martin successfully enters Gaza

This was in the portal on February 25 but it seems nobody has noticed it. There's still time to include it, must be at least as important as India – Saudi Arabia relations which was posted earlier? It has been news everywhere from ArabNews to Press TV and if that isn't enough English-speaking there is also Irish Independent, RTÉ, The Irish Times, The Press Association. According to ArabNews, this is the "first ever visit to the Hamas-ruled enclave by a top Western government official" and he did so at the request of the United Nations. Other states, including Ireland have been refused entry before. I have updated the article Micheál Martin so just requires support. Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs Micheál Martin visits Gaza on a one-day humanitarian mission. --candlewicke 02:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see anything about this visit in The Jerusalem Post or the English version of Ha'aretz, the Israeli newspaper of record. It doesn't seem to have had a big impact outside of Ireland. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:50, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]